Valhalla EG notes April 10, 2019

[Brian Goetz]

To me, getting fancy here sounds like borrowing trouble; it seems much 
simpler -- and perfectly reasonable -- to reject cycles at both compile 
and runtime, and let users use `V?` in the place they want to break 
their cycles.  (Assuming we're comfortable with `V?` means not 
flattened, which is the choice we're also making for specialization.)

On 4/11/2019 4:22 PM, Frederic Parain wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2019, at 15:20, Karen Kinnear <KAREN.KINNEAR at ORACLE.COM> wrote:
>>
>> 2. circularity handling for value type fields - proposed experiment with vm detection
>> Remi: if VM determines where to “stop” flattening the results will be random locations - which will change performance
>> Karen: Frederic prototyping in progress -
>>      - choice of field to flatten is random: based on dynamic loading order
>> John: give tools responsibility, so vm doesn’t make the decision, potential user model issue
>> (ed. note: more discussion to come - including options such as not flattening any field involved in circularity/performance cost, tool choice, user model choice)
> Here’s the results of the exploration:
>    1 - The JVM could be able to deal with cycles by stopping field flattening.
>         The class loading and field layout computation have been updated to
>         support cycles without major issues. CI was not fixed, it currently enters
>         an infinite recursive loop, but after a discussion with Tobias, it seems that
>         we should be able to handle that properly.
>
>    2 - The next question is what to do when a cycle is detected. The solution
>         implemented in the prototype was to try to flattened as much as possible,
>         and to refuse to flatten the last field closing the cycle. The problem with this
>         strategy is that the layout of data structures depends on the first class of the cycle
>         that is loaded. For the end user, this means that performance will depends
>         on class loading order, something that the user doesn’t necessarily controls.
>
>         Example with the test program attached to this mail. The argument controls
>         execution of different branches which trigger class loading in different order.
>         Then, whatever argument has been passed, the same loop is executed
>         (runs are using the interpreter because of the CI issue, with a JIT, the
>          differences should be less significant) :
>
> fparain-mac:valhalla fparain$ ./build/macosx-x64-debug/jdk/bin/java -XX:+EnableValhalla -Xint CycleTest A
> Average: 647.0 ops/ms
> fparain-mac:valhalla fparain$ ./build/macosx-x64-debug/jdk/bin/java -XX:+EnableValhalla -Xint CycleTest B
> Average: 890.0 ops/ms
> fparain-mac:valhalla fparain$ ./build/macosx-x64-debug/jdk/bin/java -XX:+EnableValhalla -Xint CycleTest C
> Average: 642.0 ops/ms
>
>         And the explanation of the difference of throughput comes directly from
>         the difference of layouts:
>
>         With argument A:
>
> Class CycleTest$A [@app]:
>    @ 16  "i" I
>    @ 24  "b" QCycleTest$B;  // flattenable and flattened
>    @ 24     "j" I
>    @ 32     "c" QCycleTest$C;  // flattenable and flattened
>    @ 32        "k" I
>    @ 36        "a" QCycleTest$A;  // flattenable not flattened
>
>        With argument B:
>
> Class CycleTest$A [@app]:
>    @ 16  "i" I
>    @ 20  "b" QCycleTest$B;  // flattenable not flattened
>
>     With argument C:
>
> Class CycleTest$A [@app]:
>    @ 16  "i" I
>    @ 24  "b" QCycleTest$B;  // flattenable and flattened
>    @ 24     "j" I
>    @ 28     "c" QCycleTest$C;  // flattenable not flattened
>
>     Dan suggested another strategy to ensure consistent layouts and performances: whenever a cycle
>     is detected, non of the field involved in this cycle is flattened. We can implement this solution too.
>
>     The other solutions that have been proposed rely on the user or javac to prevent the creation of
>     cycles. These solutions don’t require modification of the JVM, it would keep its current behavior
>     which is to throw a ClassCircularityError when it detects a cycle.
>
> Fred
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