Experience with ZGC

Sergey Tselovalnikov sergeicelov at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 23:21:47 UTC 2020


Hey, Niall!

It's mostly looking at the GC logs post-factum. For instance, GC logs are
one of the few things to look at if the length of the request queue jumps.
Seeing this value in a real-time-ish way, e.g. by integrating with the
Datadog agent (which we use for monitoring) could be interesting, but not
very useful since it's not actionable.

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 04:28, Connaughton, Niall <conniall at amazon.com>
wrote:

> Hey Sergey, thanks for the interesting read. I'm interested to hear more
> about how you are tracking the Allocation Stalls? Are you post-processing
> the GC logs to look for stalls, or you have some other mechanism?
>
> On 3/13/20, 20:22, "zgc-dev on behalf of Sergey Tselovalnikov" <
> zgc-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net on behalf of sergeicelov at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I met Chad (https://twitter.com/chadarimura) a few weeks ago at
> UnVoxxed
>     Hawaii unconference and mentioned that we use ZGC at Canva, and he
>     encouraged me to share the details. So I wanted to share our experience
>     here. I hope, sharing our success with ZGC can encourage other people
> to
>     try it out.
>
>     At Canva, we use ZGC for our API Gateway (further AFE for short). ZGC
>     helped us to reduce  GC pauses from around 30-50ms with occasional
> spikes
>     to hundreds of ms down to only 1-2ms pauses [0]. GC pauses used to
> cause
>     issues with the TCP backlog filling up which would result in further
>     queuing inside the app, and would require allocating more
>     threads/connections to clear up the queue. These two graphs show the
>     difference we observed [1].
>
>     To give some background, AFE runs on a few dozens of c5.large AWS
>     instances. The application runs on OpenJDK JDK 13 with 1.5 GB max heap
>     size, and a stable heap size around 400 MB. It uses Jetty with
> non-blocking
>     APIs as a web framework, and Finagle as an RPC framework. When fully
> warmed
>     up, less than 10% of CPU time is spent in GC threads. Enabling ZGC
> didn't
>     require any special tuning, however, we increased the max heap size
> which
>     was previously lower following the recommendations [2].
>
>     There were a few issues that we faced:
>
>     * Occasional crashes prior to 13.0.2
>     Prior to JDK 13.0.2, we observed a number of crashes that would happen
>     after running the app for around 14 hours. The symptoms were very
> similar
>     to the ones in JDK-8230565. Looking at the crash logs, we found that
> the
>     crashes would happen when one of the application methods is being
>     recompiled from level 3 to level 4, so we had to mitigate this issue.
>     However, after updating to 13.0.2, we haven't seen them anymore.
>
>     * Occasional allocation stalls
>     We're still seeing occasional "Application Stall" events which are a
> bit
>     harder to debug. It doesn't happen very often, and we're still
> collecting
>     data, but it seems that at least in some cases it's preceded by a
> number of
>     "ICBufferFull" safepoints.
>
>     * The results depend on the load profile
>     ZGC worked really well for us for AFE for which the workload consists
> of a
>     large number of requests flowing through at a relatively steady rate.
>     However, we didn't have much success trying to apply it to some of the
>     services with a bit spikier workloads. For such workloads, ZGC
> resulted in
>     a large number of application stalls after which the app wasn't able to
>     keep up with the incoming requests anymore.
>
>     Thanks for working on this awesome GC!
>
>     [0]
>
> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1780970/76673536-116fd000-659e-11ea-8832-4aefa06f02b2.png
>     [1]
>
> https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1780970/76673708-93acc400-659f-11ea-903e-0a9d50ef154d.png
>     [2]
> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/zgc/Main#Main-SettingHeapSize
>
>     --
>     Cheers,
>     Sergey Tselovalnikov
>
>
>

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Cheers,
Sergey Tselovalnikov


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