[OpenJDK 2D-Dev] RFR: 8217731: Font rendering and glyph spacing changed from jdk-8 to jdk-11

semyon.sadetsky at oracle.com semyon.sadetsky at oracle.com
Thu Jun 6 16:11:41 UTC 2019

On 6/5/19 6:43 PM, Philip Race wrote:

> On 6/5/19, 4:18 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
>> On 6/5/19 2:11 PM, Phil Race wrote:
>>> It *can* make a difference and in fact we have a regression test
>>> that now passes with this fix which tests different rendering modes.
>> Which test is it? Why  you didn't mark it with the bug id?
> See https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8199529
> I only located this bug and verified this "resolves" it after sending 
> out the review
> but it "resolves" it due to luck as much as anything definite, so I 
> don't think it is
> required to link this as "solving" that.
Nice that you made this discovery. Though it was more or less obvious.
So, now you can remove jtreg-hard label from the bug and provide the 
>>> However that is not a direct test for this potential difference.
>>> You cannot say that this change *must* make a difference, it
>>> just does. Sometimes.
>> That's what we need to avoid regression again when fonts are updated. 
>> Font appearance directly affects user experience. Fortunately this 
>> happens not so often but we definitely need a test that will indicate 
>> such changes before the bug is reported externally like it recently 
>> happened. I thin everyone agrees that we should not repeat this 
>> omission once again.
> You misunderstand. There was no regression. 
Then why is the bug marked as regression?
> There was a change in behaviour
> which is completely allowable, and can happen all the time and is 
> sensitive to
> so many things. So there was no omission. 
Ok, then why do we need this fix?
> Nothing can be tested and asserted
> to be right or wrong. And the algorithms used are outside of our control.
Was it external change in Windows OS that caused the issue? If so, the 
bug was incorrectly evaluated. Can you update JBS with the correct one.
> But there is still value in the change to see if more people are happy 
> with the
> alternative rendering.
> -phil
>> --Semyon
>>> -phil.
>>> On 6/5/19 1:40 PM, semyon.sadetsky at oracle.com wrote:
>>>> Can you clarify does the change affects font metrics?
>>>> I see that it is a sub-pixel difference for each single glyph but 
>>>> if a long line of text can accumulate a notable difference the reg 
>>>> test can be provided.
>>>> --Semyon
>>>> On 6/5/19 11:43 AM, Phil Race wrote:
>>>>> bug: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8217731
>>>>> webrev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~prr/8217731/
>>>>> This is intended to "help" but cannot completely cure, with
>>>>> some of the rendering differences in JDK11 vs JDK 8.
>>>>> In a typical Swing app on Windows using LCD rendering
>>>>> it manifests as subtle adjustments in the spacing between glyphs.
>>>>> There isn't an easy regression test for this, and it is subjective
>>>>> as to how bad it was before and how much this improves it,
>>>>> even if you were to accept that 8 is "better" .. and not just 
>>>>> different ..
>>>>> -phil.

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