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The discussion about SLE seems to have taken over.<br>
This was originally about zLinux.<br>
<br>
If it actually makes sense for zLinux for JDK 11 then I have no
objections to<br>
the proposed toolchain specific patch ...<br>
<br>
If it does not make sense for 11 then I think you should look only
at 8u and prepare<br>
a patch directly against that.<br>
<br>
Its not "critical" for 10 which is in RDP2 already and 9 is going
EOSL in less than 3 months ...<br>
<br>
-phil.<br>
<br>
On 1/23/18, 9:18 AM, Adam Farley8 wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:OF0DAA65FF.9ACD7F82-ON0025821E.005F0AEA-8025821E.005F1357@notes.na.collabserv.com"
type="cite"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>On
01/23/2018
05:25 PM, Adam Farley8 wrote:</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>>>
SLE-11:*
doesn't even have OpenJDK-8 and is also going to be out of
support</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>>>
next
year anyway.</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> </span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> Does
this mean the gcc version will change? If you have hard
information on</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>>
this,
I'd appreciate the URL.</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>I'm not
sure
what you mean. SLE12-SP3 ships gcc-4.8.x while SLE-15 will</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>ship
gcc-7,
see:</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> </span><a
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<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>Is that
what
you mean when you say the gcc version is changing?</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Apologies, I
was
unclear. I was asking if the minimum gcc version on David's </span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">website was
likely
to change when SLE11 went out of service. From what you're</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">telling me,
the
sles 11 bit on the site will likely be updated to sles 12,</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">and the gcc
version
won't change (as you're saying SLE12 ships with 4.8.x).</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> If
the
minimum gcc version for 10 or 11 is above 4.8.5 across all
platforms,</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> then
I agree, but I don't have that information, so I figured I'd ask
to</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>>
cover
all of the JDK versions, to be safe.</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>I don't
know
what the minimum version is at the moment, to be honest. I
haven't</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>tried
building
OpenJDK-10 or OpenJDK-11 on SLE-12:SP3 yet. I could do that</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>if that's
important.</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> Even
if the gcc version does change, adding 4.8.5-specific code
shouldn't</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>>
break
anything.</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>It most
likely
doesn't break anything. But it leaves workaround in the code</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>base
which
we could potentially forget to clean out later when it is no</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>longer
needed.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Agreed. I was
hedging my bets on the gcc version not changing. Be good if we
had</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">some reliable
intel on the minimum gcc version that we could use to make a</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">decision.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">> </span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>> What
do you think?</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>My
opinion
is that the codebase for OpenJDK-11 should be kept clean because</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>we are
working
on getting rid of unnecessary cruft. But this decision isn't</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>up to me,
of course. I'm just arguing that I consider the chances that
someone</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>will try
OpenJDK-11
on SLE-12:SP3 or even SLE-11:SP4 very low.</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">></span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">>Adrian</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">A reasonable
opinion.
I may disagree with your conclusions, but you present</span>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">your
arguments
well.</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Could others
on
this email chain act as tie breaker on the jdk10+11 matter
please?</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Best Regards</span>
<br>
<br>
<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Adam Farley</span>
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