RFR 8189131: Open-source the Oracle JDK Root Certificates

Magnus Ihse Bursie magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com
Tue Dec 5 09:08:38 UTC 2017


On 2017-12-05 09:44, Volker Simonis wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Magnus Ihse Bursie
> <magnus.ihse.bursie at oracle.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-12-01 18:16, Volker Simonis wrote:
>>> Hi Rajan,
>>>
>>> great to see this finally happen!
>>>
>>> I have just a quick question related to the tests. As far as I can
>>> see, the tests will only succeed if the OpenJDK will be build with the
>>> new open sourced, Oracle root certificates. But what if somebody is
>>> building the OpenJDK with his own set of root certificates (by using
>>> the --with-cacerts-file option)? Do you see any possibility of
>>> restricting these tests only to builds which used the original,
>>> checked in cacerts file?
>>
>> My question is if the --with-cacerts-file option is still relevant after
>> this? I see a good chance of simplifying some build logic here. :-)
>>
> I think the folks from the AdoptOpenJDK project are using this option
> (CC-ed adoption-discuss). I'm not sure if they want to drop their root
> certificates in favor of the new ones.
Maybe they can upstream their root certs as well, if it seems prudent?
> It general I think it would be useful to have something like
> "--add-cacerts-file" which will merge in additional certificates
> although this will most certainly complicate the build logic :)
I see your point, but if the idea is that distributors should be able to 
supply their own set of root certs (which kind of makes sense, after 
all) we should probably keep the current functionality. Otherwise 
there's no way to remove a root cert, which is also something you might 
want to do (if a CA goes rouge, or whatever).

But then again, I think this borders just on the line were it's 
reasonable for configure to provide an option to replace the file. If a 
distributor is not satisfied with the contents of a file in OpenJDK, 
they are always free to replace it. The normal way to do this is to use 
patches that are applied on top of the OpenJDK source distribution. If 
you want to have your own ca root store, you would just need a patch 
with your own file. Voilà! The only reason this was made an option is 
that the OpenJDK distribution didn't include a root store at all by 
default, so *all* users needed to provide one for it to be usable. Now 
that this changes, the need to have build support to replace it 
diminishes greatly.

/Magnus

>
> Regards,
> Volker
>
>> /Magnus
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Volker
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Rajan Halade <rajan.halade at oracle.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> May I request for your review of this fix to open source the root
>>>> certificates in Oracle's Java SE Root CA program. The fix is to populate
>>>> cacerts keystore with root certificates and add corresponding tests for
>>>> it
>>>> as per the test plan outlined at JDK-8191711. interoperability tests are
>>>> added against CAs with available test certificates.
>>>>
>>>> Webrev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rhalade/8189131/webrev.00/
>>>> JEP: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8191486
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rajan
>>>>




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