CFV: New JDK Committer: Arno Zeller

Langer, Christoph christoph.langer at sap.com
Wed Feb 24 23:14:15 UTC 2021


Hi Vladimir, David,

I see that you've vetoed Arno's Committer nomination. This is a fair thing to do.

If it wasn't about Arno and his personal record within our team I would probably just take back the CFV and postpone it to a later point in time when more commits have accumulated. But in this case, I'd like to add some pleading before I do that.

First of all, the OpenJDK guidelines say [0]:
"As a rough guide, a Contributor should make at least eight significant contributions to that Project before being nominated." This, of course, leaves some room for interpretation about what "significant" means. In Arno's case we can see 11 commits plus the one he co-authored lately. It is arguable that a lot of the commits look simple, however I guess it is not always easy to judge whether getting to a certain change was as easy as the commit looks tiny. E.g. in a complex testing environment, chasing down problems can be rather hard.

Furthermore, as I said in my nomination statement, Arno is a long time member of SAP's JVM team (actually quite some time longer than my own stay with the team). He is our main Quality Engineer and he is very involved in the OpenJDK project, triaging our tests every day. Owing to his role this doesn't show up so much in commits compared to other developers in the team. But there have been various occasions where he has found bugs and initiated fixes that eventually other people from our team (including myself) have finally brought to review and commit in the OpenJDK. We sometimes did not credit Arno, e.g. with co-authorship, out of convenience which was our fault.

Well, after all, I personally strongly believe that Arno has deserved to become an OpenJDK Committer at this time. But if you stick to your veto after spending a second thought, I'll of course withdraw the nomination.

Best regards
Christoph

[0] https://openjdk.java.net/projects/#project-committer


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jdk-dev <jdk-dev-retn at openjdk.java.net> On Behalf Of Vladimir
> Kozlov
> Sent: Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021 18:43
> To: jdk-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: CFV: New JDK Committer: Arno Zeller
> 
> Vote: veto
> 
> I think it is too early for Arno.
> 
> I would like to remind that Committer candidate have to contribute
> *significant* changes:
> 
> "As a rough guide, a Contributor should make at least eight significant
> contributions to that Project before being
> nominated."
> 
> Most of changes on provided list are not significant from my POV. Also based
> dates, he was not active for more then one
> year except latest co-authored change.
> 
> Regards,
> Vladimir K
> 
> On 2/24/21 2:40 AM, Langer, Christoph wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I hereby nominate Arno Zeller (azeller) to JDK Committer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Arno is a long time member of the SapMachine team at SAP. Most of his
> focus is dedicated to quality engineering for the various JDK releases that the
> SAP team is maintaining.
> >
> > Over time he has cumulated 11 commits in OpenJDK [0] and recently co-
> authored another one [1]. Above that, he's constantly involved in reporting
> OpenJDK bugs, contributing to their root cause analysis and reviewing the
> fixes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Votes are due by 12:00 UTC, 10th March 2021.
> >
> >
> >
> > Only current JDK Committers [2] are eligible to vote on this nomination.
> >
> >    Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this mailing list.
> >
> >
> >
> > For Lazy Consensus voting instructions, see [3].
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Christoph
> >
> >
> >
> > [0] https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/search?q=author-
> name%3A%22zeller%22&type=commits
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/search?q=co-authored-
> by%3A%22zeller%22&type=commits
> >
> > [2] https://openjdk.java.net/census
> > [3] https://openjdk.java.net/projects/#committer-vote
> >


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