[7u6] Request for phase 2 approval for CR 7188168: 7071904 broke the DEBUG_BINARIES option on Linux

[Seán Coffey]

+1 on getting a clearer communication around 7u deadlines Andrew. 
Hopefully we can make progress there. Unfortunately, it was just some 
unlucky timing around a phase 2 approval request in this case.

I've updated 7188168 to represent your push to 7u-dev.

regards,
Sean.

On 13/08/2012 20:32, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 8/10/12 7:52 PM, Andrew Hughes wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately this request comes very late in the 7u6
>>>> stabilization
>>>> phase. Thorough testing & analysis is almost complete and we're
>>>> preparing for release.
>>> Hmmm... was this announced somewhere?  All I see in my archives are
>>> the initial
>>> announcement of the branch and I vaguely recall something about
>>> "August", nothing
>>> more specific, but I may have missed something.
>> I believe that Sean's 'phase 2 progress' mail came in while you were
>> on vacation:
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk7u-dev/2012-July/003862.html
>>
> I think this is where I remember the "August" reference from.  I think
> exact deadlines will help as we see more community involvement in jdk7u.
>
>>> Is there a webpage that tracks the release process?  I don't see
>>> anything on
>>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk7u/  It would be easier for us
>>> to work
>>> to deadlines if we knew what they were :-)
>> That'd be a good thing for us to add for 7u8.
>>   
> Something as simple as a few bullet points with the proposed dates for
> each stage & release would be good enough.  Having this in a calendar-parsable
> format would be a bonus.
>
>>> >From our perspective, this is critical.  Without this fixed, tools
>>> can't work with the debug information on x86.
>>>
>>> We can work around this by patching in IcedTea (we've actually
>>> already
>>> applied it there) but we're working towards a scenario where we
>>> will be
>>> able to use OpenJDK directly and avoid IcedTea.  If we're not able
>>> to get
>>> fixes in during the latter stages of a release, then making such a
>>> switch
>>> becomes unfeasible.
>> I think this fix would have been a good fit in phase 2 for 7u6 if it
>> had
>> come in a week or two ago in late July, and maybe even early August -
>> around the
>> tim of Sean's e-mail above. Given that we can work around it in
>> Icedtea, I think
>> it's a better fit for 7u8 now - that's the low risk choice.
>>
> I see your point.  It was partly to test the waters to see how feasible
> working directly with OpenJDK is.  Still work to be done on both sides.
>
>> I think we'll need to give some thought to downstream testing cycles
>> for 7u8 to
>> ensure that we can catch and fix any such regressions earlier during
>> the development
>> of the release.
>>
> On our side, we have been tracking things a lot more closely for u6.
> We branched at about the same time for 2.3 and I expect a release around
> the same time.
>
>>>> With this issue not affecting the product
>>>> JDK bits,
>>> I'm not sure what you mean.  Can you explain?  This does affect
>>> what we ship.
>> I think that Sean meant the regular, default build.
>>
> As we have with IcedTea, we probably need to decide which build options
> we regard as critical to release and which not.
>
>>>> can I ask that you push this fix to the jdk7u-dev repo
>>>> instead.
>>> Well, I was going to propose it for the main tree too, but I went
>>> for u6 first
>>> as I was aware there was less time for that.  Apparently, there's
>>> even less than
>>> I thought... :-)  Do I need to send a fresh mail for this or can I
>>> just push?
>> No need to send a fresh mail, consider it approved for 7u8. And
>> thanks for
>> catching & fixing the issue!
>>
> Thanks.
> Pushed: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7u/jdk7u-dev/hotspot/rev/aff265cb73a3
>
>> cheers,
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