Announcing: valhalla-spec-experts group

Brian Goetz brian.goetz at
Mon Dec 14 22:28:47 UTC 2015

Eventually, yes; there's no reason not to have these, except for the 
administrative overhead of setting them up.  But I didn't want to delay 
getting the discussions going in a more transparent manner over 
administrivia, so these will come later, and of course I'll announce 
them here when they do.


On 12/14/2015 5:24 PM, Ali Ebrahimi wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> Wouldn't we have valhalla-spec-(observers/comments)?
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> Ali Ebrahimi
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Brian Goetz <brian.goetz at 
> <mailto:brian.goetz at>> wrote:
>     It's time to take the next step in Valhalla's evolution.
>     Accordingly, I've created the valhalla-spec-experts list, which
>     will be the precursor to an eventual JCP Expert Group, and will
>     operate under the JCP-friendly ToU.  This list is publicly
>     archived in the obvious place, and the initial membership includes
>     both corporate participation (Oracle, IBM, Red Hat, Jetbrains,
>     Google) and individuals from the OpenJDK community.
>     As was the case when we formed the Lambda experts list, the role
>     of valhalla-dev should now revert to its intended purpose, which
>     is to discuss the *implementation* of Valhalla in OpenJDK. 
>     Examples of appropriate discussion topics for valhalla-dev include:
>     - Bug reports
>     - Code review comments
>     - Test cases
>     - Build or porting problems
>     - Migration experiences for your own code
>     What we are trying to avoid is: having design discussions play out
>     concurrently in multiple places with differing sets of players. 
>     So please, we ask that you exercise restraint in commenting on
>     active EG discussions -- as design decisions start to converge,
>     we'll announce them here, and of course the primary place for
>     implementation will remain the valhalla repositories.
>     Please remember that EG discussions often happen at a different
>     pace than in other open-source projects.  Days can go by without a
>     response, but this doesn't mean that the EG is not thinking about
>     it, doesn't care, or is "stumped".  Often it simply means the EG
>     members are working privately (or with their teams) to figure out
>     what their position is, and will respond when they've thought
>     about it more.  So, please let those discussions play out.

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