Primitive Queue<any T> considerations

Brian Goetz brian.goetz at
Wed Nov 18 20:52:52 UTC 2015

On 11/18/2015 3:38 PM, Dávid Karnok wrote:
> To be clear, I don't want to use nullable primitive long, this is what 
> Long is for.

There's a big difference between these two ... a Long will entail an 
indirection (as well as 2x as much memory), an Optional<long> will not.  
If boxes were good enough here, we'd not need to do values...

> My problem is that the j.u.Queue.poll() relies on the ability to 
> return null indicating an empty queue which when primitivized is 
> likely to return zero which is also a valid value.

Ah, now I get it -- you're talking about APIs, not implementation.

Since null is not a member of all types, then methods like Queue.poll() 
(and Map.get() !) are not candidates for naive any-fication.  We have a 
story here for binary- and source-compatible migration of such APIs to 
new Optional-bearing methods while leaving the old "broken" methods in 
place for compatibility with existing erased ref instantiations.  We've 
alluded to this briefly in State of the Specialization.  Details to be 

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