An example of substituability test that is recursive

Karen Kinnear karen.kinnear at oracle.com
Thu Jan 31 21:29:27 UTC 2019


Actually - I was unclear - apologies. K

> On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:54 PM, forax at univ-mlv.fr wrote:
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> De: "Karen Kinnear" <karen.kinnear at oracle.com>
> À: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
> Cc: "John Rose" <john.r.rose at oracle.com>, "valhalla-spec-experts" <valhalla-spec-experts at openjdk.java.net>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 31 Janvier 2019 21:36:09
> Objet: Re: An example of substituability test that is recursive
> Option #1 was what I was suggesting in the meeting two weeks ago - if this starts
> to recurse too deeply, create a worklist - which should give you the same result.
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> If you switch to .Equals - you might get a different result …
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> yes, you are right, i did not understand what you mean by "expected behavior", my bad on that.
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> thanks,
> Karen
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> regards,
> Rémi
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> On Jan 31, 2019, at 1:46 PM, forax at univ-mlv.fr <mailto:forax at univ-mlv.fr>wrote:
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> De: "John Rose" <john.r.rose at oracle.com <mailto:john.r.rose at oracle.com>>
> À: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr <mailto:forax at univ-mlv.fr>>
> Cc: "Karen Kinnear" <karen.kinnear at oracle.com <mailto:karen.kinnear at oracle.com>>, "valhalla-spec-experts" <valhalla-spec-experts at openjdk.java.net <mailto:valhalla-spec-experts at openjdk.java.net>>
> Envoyé: Jeudi 31 Janvier 2019 19:05:33
> Objet: Re: An example of substituability test that is recursive
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 6:34 AM, forax at univ-mlv.fr <mailto:forax at univ-mlv.fr> wrote:
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> The other solution is to say that == should do an upcall to equals (after the null checking and the class checking), if equals throw a StackOverflow, it's the expected behavior because the user is in control of that behavior.
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> What you are doing here, I think, is exposing a requirement
> that we *don't* use the control stack for recursion on subst.
> testing (or hashing).  That's a reasonable requirement.
> It leads to a worklist algorithm for doing this tricky thing,
> just like we had to do many times in the JIT.
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> IMO that the other solution,
> solution 1: you use a worklist (and also perhaps a marking algorithm to avoid to crawle the DAG)
> solution 2: you claim it's too complex and you just let the user deal with it by calling equals() (and provide a way for a user to call the default subst).
> 
> Rémi



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