From david.holmes at oracle.com  Wed Oct 12 00:41:07 2011
From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:41:07 +1000
Subject: Email attachments
Message-ID: <4E954493.9090509@oracle.com>

Hi,

I'm seeing a number of folk having a lot of trouble trying to attach 
patches and webrevs to emails sent to the dev lists. I'm not sure what 
the mailing list policy/settings are in this regard but is there 
something we can do to make this easier for them?

Thanks,
David

From neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 00:54:42 2011
From: neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?bmV1Z2Vucy5saW1hc29mdHdhcmVAZ21haWwuY29t?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:54:42 +0200
Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEVtYWlsIGF0dGFjaG1lbnRz?=
Message-ID: <4e9547c6.c964e30a.05f0.4109@mx.google.com>

For some reason it went out of practice recently, but so far was always enforced to link webrews from a website, so the html is available.

Cr.openjdk.java.net seems to be the easiest option, however, I think is only available to contributors, which is a sort of chicken/egg problem, but I guess is not difficult to find a webspace nowadays to post few kb of html code.

The webrew should also be attached to the bug request AFAIK, but I need to lookup the new guidelines enforced by the governing board to see if there are some words about that, I don't remember now.

Cheers,
Mario

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Data: mer, ott 12, 2011 09:41
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A: <web-discuss at openjdk.java.net>

Hi,

I'm seeing a number of folk having a lot of trouble trying to attach 
patches and webrevs to emails sent to the dev lists. I'm not sure what 
the mailing list policy/settings are in this regard but is there 
something we can do to make this easier for them?

Thanks,
David
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From david.holmes at oracle.com  Wed Oct 12 01:45:00 2011
From: david.holmes at oracle.com (David Holmes)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:45:00 +1000
Subject: Email attachments
In-Reply-To: <4e9547c6.c964e30a.05f0.4109@mx.google.com>
References: <4e9547c6.c964e30a.05f0.4109@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4E95538C.6020602@oracle.com>

On 12/10/2011 5:54 PM, neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com wrote:
> For some reason it went out of practice recently, but so far was always
> enforced to link webrews from a website, so the html is available.

Sure but not everyone is a full contributor with access to 
cr.openjdk.java.net etc. But they do have access to webrev and many 
folks prefer to see a webrev rather than a patch as the patch has no 
context. And not everyone has easy access to, or wants to use, an 
external site to host the webrev.

David

> Cr.openjdk.java.net seems to be the easiest option, however, I think is
> only available to contributors, which is a sort of chicken/egg problem,
> but I guess is not difficult to find a webspace nowadays to post few kb
> of html code.
>
> The webrew should also be attached to the bug request AFAIK, but I need
> to lookup the new guidelines enforced by the governing board to see if
> there are some words about that, I don't remember now.
>
> Cheers,
> Mario
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> Da: "David Holmes" <david.holmes at oracle.com>
> Data: mer, ott 12, 2011 09:41
> Oggetto: Email attachments
> A: <web-discuss at openjdk.java.net>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm seeing a number of folk having a lot of trouble trying to attach
> patches and webrevs to emails sent to the dev lists. I'm not sure what
> the mailing list policy/settings are in this regard but is there
> something we can do to make this easier for them?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>

From tim.bell at gmail.com  Wed Oct 12 19:01:54 2011
From: tim.bell at gmail.com (Tim Bell)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:01:54 -0700
Subject: Email attachments
In-Reply-To: <4E95538C.6020602@oracle.com>
References: <4e9547c6.c964e30a.05f0.4109@mx.google.com>
	<4E95538C.6020602@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc9En5bHXMRYTzawzk5XBMdZN3E2ZrvOePnhkLzTwoecbnzYA@mail.gmail.com>

David sent me a two examples:

 http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/core-libs-dev/2011-October/007864.html

 http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/core-libs-dev/2011-October/007910.html

One was pilot error (forgot to attach the file(s) after writing up the
email message).  The other one was attached, but the .ksh file
extension confounded mailman (Python, actually) so the results weren't
pretty.

Mailman is not particularly kind to attachments, but I changed the
configuration to tolerate them a bit better as suggested here [1]:

SCRUBBER_DONT_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME = False
SCRUBBER_USE_ATTACHMENT_FILENAME_EXTENSION = True

If this helps, good.  If not, we can take them back out.

Tim

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users at python.org/msg54218.html

From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 00:29:20 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:29:20 +0200
Subject: Email attachments
In-Reply-To: <4E95538C.6020602@oracle.com>
References: <4e9547c6.c964e30a.05f0.4109@mx.google.com>
	<4E95538C.6020602@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E969350.4030201@gmx.de>

Am 12.10.2011 10:45, schrieb David Holmes:
> On 12/10/2011 5:54 PM, neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com wrote:
>> For some reason it went out of practice recently, but so far was always
>> enforced to link webrews from a website, so the html is available.
>
> Sure but not everyone is a full contributor with access to cr.openjdk.java.net etc. But they do 
> have access to webrev and many folks prefer to see a webrev rather than a patch as the patch has 
> no context. And not everyone has easy access to, or wants to use, an external site to host the 
> webrev.

+1
Can anybody teach me, how to get access to cr.openjdk.java.net etc. for a non-full contributor?
I mean myself ;-)

-Ulf


From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 02:52:04 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:52:04 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list archives?
Message-ID: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de>

Searching a post or following a thread on http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/.... IMHO is a 
nightmare.

Better examples:
http://netbeans.org/projects/www/lists/netcat/archive/2011-10/message/323
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=757&dsMessageId=2447781


In the meantime, a link to the archive as footer or each post would be very helpful.

Example:
==============================================================================
After installing a new version I always read: "... restart Windows... "

Doesn't it be enough just to restart Windows Explorer (e.g. by closing a
running Windows Explorer instance from Task-Manager)?

-Ulf

------------------------------------------------------
http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=757&dsMessageId=2447781

To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: [dev-unsubscribe at tortoisesvn.tigris.org].
==============================================================================


-Ulf


From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 03:06:29 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:06:29 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E96B825.9090606@gmx.de>

Another very well-arranged interface:
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.netbeans.netcat

-Ulf


Am 13.10.2011 11:52, schrieb Ulf Zibis:
> Searching a post or following a thread on http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/.... IMHO is a 
> nightmare.
>
> Better examples:
> http://netbeans.org/projects/www/lists/netcat/archive/2011-10/message/323
> http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=757&dsMessageId=2447781
>
>
> In the meantime, a link to the archive as footer or each post would be very helpful.
>
> Example:
> ==============================================================================
> After installing a new version I always read: "... restart Windows... "
>
> Doesn't it be enough just to restart Windows Explorer (e.g. by closing a
> running Windows Explorer instance from Task-Manager)?
>
> -Ulf
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=757&dsMessageId=2447781
>
> To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: [dev-unsubscribe at tortoisesvn.tigris.org].
> ==============================================================================
>
>
> -Ulf
>
>

From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Thu Oct 13 07:10:12 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:10:12 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>

On 10/13/11 11:52 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Searching a post or following a thread on http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/.... IMHO is a nightmare.
> 

Some (though not all) of the lists are also archived on markmail, gmane, and mail-archive. If you let me know
which ones are missing on markmail, for example, I can ask for them to be added there. Thanks!

cheers,
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From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 07:58:07 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:58:07 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de> <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E96FC7F.8040609@gmx.de>

Much thanks!

On Markmail, e.g. coin-dev is missing.

Is it appropriate to refer to such external archives in official bug reports ?

-Ulf


Am 13.10.2011 16:10, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/13/11 11:52 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Searching a post or following a thread on http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/.... IMHO is a nightmare.
>>
> Some (though not all) of the lists are also archived on markmail, gmane, and mail-archive. If you let me know
> which ones are missing on markmail, for example, I can ask for them to be added there. Thanks!
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic

From jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com  Thu Oct 13 07:58:57 2011
From: jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com (Jonathan Gibbons)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:58:57 -0700
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de> <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E96FCB1.3060606@oracle.com>

On 10/13/2011 07:10 AM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
> On 10/13/11 11:52 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Searching a post or following a thread on http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/.... IMHO is a nightmare.
>>
> Some (though not all) of the lists are also archived on markmail, gmane, and mail-archive. If you let me know
> which ones are missing on markmail, for example, I can ask for them to be added there. Thanks!
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic

Dalibor,

Perhaps you could provide this info on the OpenJDK website somewhere.

-- Jon


From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 08:05:47 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:05:47 +0200
Subject: Where are old bugs?
Message-ID: <4E96FE4B.9010501@gmx.de>

E.g. https://java-net.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=578 is no more available.

-Ulf

From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu Oct 13 08:33:11 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:33:11 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
Message-ID: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de>

Hi,

the list on http://download.java.net/jdk6/6u10/archive/ ends at u25

Additionally, the u25 link is not to the sources, but to ea binaries, so in fact the last available 
source snapshot is u23.

Is there a fastdebug binary for jdk6u27 ?

I have a 6u23-ea-bin-b01 fastdebug binary, but a source snapshot for b05.
Would there be a maching fastdebug binary for b05 ?

-Ulf


From ahughes at redhat.com  Thu Oct 13 08:57:24 2011
From: ahughes at redhat.com (Dr Andrew John Hughes)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:57:24 +0100
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <CAFXTvn4w6fRSCS1gABZZXQi7vcqYrCOS8tqGnB71KKsKQfzjag@mail.gmail.com>

On 13 October 2011 16:33, Ulf Zibis <Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the list on http://download.java.net/jdk6/6u10/archive/ ends at u25
>
> Additionally, the u25 link is not to the sources, but to ea binaries, so in
> fact the last available source snapshot is u23.
>
> Is there a fastdebug binary for jdk6u27 ?
>
> I have a 6u23-ea-bin-b01 fastdebug binary, but a source snapshot for b05.
> Would there be a maching fastdebug binary for b05 ?
>
> -Ulf
>
>

These aren't OpenJDK sources AFAIK.  Please don't confuse the two.
-- 
Andrew :-)

From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Fri Oct 14 13:09:09 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:09:09 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E96FC7F.8040609@gmx.de>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de> <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
	<4E96FC7F.8040609@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E9896E5.3040903@oracle.com>

On 10/13/11 4:58 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Much thanks!
> 
> On Markmail, e.g. coin-dev is missing.
> 
> Is it appropriate to refer to such external archives in official bug reports ?
> 
I don't see why not.

cheers,
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From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Fri Oct 14 13:14:54 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:14:54 +0200
Subject: Where are old bugs?
In-Reply-To: <4E96FE4B.9010501@gmx.de>
References: <4E96FE4B.9010501@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E98983E.8050402@oracle.com>

On 10/13/11 5:05 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> E.g. https://java-net.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=578 is no more available.
> 

That seems to be about something called java-net. That's not part of OpenJDK. I assume it's
about java.net itself. This list is just for OpenJDK infrastructure.
 
See http://www.java.net/about-javanet for contact information for java.net specific questions.

cheers.
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From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Fri Oct 14 13:17:57 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:17:57 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E9896E5.3040903@oracle.com>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de> <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
	<4E96FC7F.8040609@gmx.de> <4E9896E5.3040903@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E9898F5.30508@gmx.de>

Am 14.10.2011 22:09, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/13/11 4:58 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Much thanks!
>>
>> On Markmail, e.g. coin-dev is missing.
>>
>> Is it appropriate to refer to such external archives in official bug reports ?
>>
> I don't see why not.

If those archives would die some day, then links to there would be broken.
Which of the mentioned 3 you would value as most stable for the future?

Thanks for your hints,

-Ulf

>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic

From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Fri Oct 14 13:26:01 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:26:01 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>

On 10/13/11 5:33 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the list on http://download.java.net/jdk6/6u10/archive/ ends at u25

You seem to be asking about source code for Oracle JDK. This list is about OpenJDK. 
You can find the OpenJDK 6 source code bundles here:
http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6/

> Additionally, the u25 link is not to the sources, but to ea binaries, so in fact the last available source snapshot is u23.

The JRL has been retired last year, so you should use OpenJDK instead for research. 
See http://robilad.livejournal.com/75483.html for details.
 
> Is there a fastdebug binary for jdk6u27 ?

If it's not on the page you linked to, then probably not. 

Anyway, you can create fastdebug builds of OpenJDK yourself. 
A blog post describing how to go about it is here:
http://hiroshiyamauchi.blogspot.com/2009/12/building-openjdk-faster.html

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From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Fri Oct 14 13:32:56 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:32:56 +0200
Subject: Is there any chance to get a better access to mailing list
	archives?
In-Reply-To: <4E9898F5.30508@gmx.de>
References: <4E96B4C4.9040301@gmx.de> <4E96F144.9070702@oracle.com>
	<4E96FC7F.8040609@gmx.de> <4E9896E5.3040903@oracle.com>
	<4E9898F5.30508@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E989C78.5040208@oracle.com>

On 10/14/11 10:17 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Which of the mentioned 3 you would value as most stable for the future?

Predicting the future is not one of my superhero skills, unfortunately. ;)

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From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Fri Oct 14 14:58:57 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:58:57 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de>

Hi Dalibor,

much thanks for your valuable hints.

My desire is a _matching_ quadruple of
- Windows JDK-6 binary, preferably the official from Oracle
- Windows JDK-6 fastdebug binary
- source bundle
- doc bundle

The last matching quadruple I have is Update 20, but after it becomes difficult.

On the official download page http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
I get:
- Windows JDK-6 Update 27 binary
- Universal JDK-6 Update 25 docs  4 Apr 2011
- Universal JDK-6 Update 23 source bundle 12 Nov 2010
- No Windows JDK-6 fastdebug binary

I think it is fair to expect matching bundles.

 From http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6/ I get a Build b23 OpenJDK source bundle. But to which 
official Update does it match?
On http://download.java.net/jdk6/source/ the link Java SE 6u23 Binary Snapshot Releases 
<http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u23/promoted/b05/binaries/> refers to 6u27 release
On http://download.java.net/jdk6/6u10/archive/ there is a link to JDK6u25 Build b03 
<http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u25/promoted/b03/index.html> sources, but there I find 6u25 EA 
binary and 6u25 EA fastdebug binary, which is fine, but no matching 6u25 sources as stated.

So many things are in disorder. Can someone arrange this?

As I'm on Windows, self-building is not an option. :-(

I hope you got my mess.

Cheers,

Ulf


Am 14.10.2011 22:26, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/13/11 5:33 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the list on http://download.java.net/jdk6/6u10/archive/ ends at u25
> You seem to be asking about source code for Oracle JDK.
Yes, but I also would accept OpenJDK source bundles, as they seem be 99% the same. The problem is, 
which build matches to which official Windows binary update.

>   This list is about OpenJDK.
> You can find the OpenJDK 6 source code bundles here:
> http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6/
>
>> Additionally, the u25 link is not to the sources, but to ea binaries, so in fact the last available source snapshot is u23.
> The JRL has been retired last year, so you should use OpenJDK instead for research.
> See http://robilad.livejournal.com/75483.html for details.
>
>> Is there a fastdebug binary for jdk6u27 ?
> If it's not on the page you linked to, then probably not.
>
> Anyway, you can create fastdebug builds of OpenJDK yourself.
> A blog post describing how to go about it is here:
> http://hiroshiyamauchi.blogspot.com/2009/12/building-openjdk-faster.html
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
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From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Fri Oct 14 15:57:21 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:57:21 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>

On 10/14/11 11:58 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> On the official download page http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
> I get:
> - Windows JDK-6 Update 27 binary
> - Universal JDK-6 Update 25 docs  4 Apr 2011
> - Universal JDK-6 Update 23 source bundle 12 Nov 2010
> - No Windows JDK-6 fastdebug binary
> 
> I think it is fair to expect matching bundles.

No, not really. For example, JRL was retired last year. 

> From http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6/ I get a Build b23 OpenJDK source bundle. But to which official Update does it match?

Assuming by 'official Update' you mean an Oracle JDK release, the answer is: none.
See http://blogs.oracle.com/darcy/entry/openjdk_6_genealogy for details.

If you're looking for some kind of close synchronization between Oracle JDK and OpenJDK releases, 
I'd recommend that you look at JDK 7, as Oracle JDK 7 is based on OpenJDK 7.

> As I'm on Windows, self-building is not an option. :-(

It's not that hard. See http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk6/jdk6/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html for details.
Ask on build-dev if you get stuck.

cheers,
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From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Sat Oct 15 02:19:10 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:19:10 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E99500E.70304@gmx.de>

Am 15.10.2011 00:57, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/14/11 11:58 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> On the official download page http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
>> I get:
>> - Windows JDK-6 Update 27 binary
>> - Universal JDK-6 Update 25 docs  4 Apr 2011
>> - Universal JDK-6 Update 23 source bundle 12 Nov 2010
>> - No Windows JDK-6 fastdebug binary
>>
>> I think it is fair to expect matching bundles.
> No, not really. For example, JRL was retired last year.
>
>>  From http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6/ I get a Build b23 OpenJDK source bundle. But to which official Update does it match?
> Assuming by 'official Update' you mean an Oracle JDK release, the answer is: none.
> See http://blogs.oracle.com/darcy/entry/openjdk_6_genealogy for details.
>
> If you're looking for some kind of close synchronization between Oracle JDK and OpenJDK releases,
> I'd recommend that you look at JDK 7, as Oracle JDK 7 is based on OpenJDK 7.
>
>> As I'm on Windows, self-building is not an option. :-(
> It's not that hard. See http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk6/jdk6/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html for details.
> Ask on build-dev if you get stuck.
The hardest Problem is:
The 32-bit OpenJDK Windows build requires Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 (VS2003) Professional 
Edition compiler.


>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic

From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Sun Oct 16 16:34:53 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:34:53 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E9B6A1D.4000307@gmx.de>

Hi Dalibor,

thanks again...

Am 15.10.2011 00:57, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/14/11 11:58 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> On the official download page http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
>> I get:
>> - Windows JDK-6 Update 27 binary
>> - Universal JDK-6 Update 25 docs  4 Apr 2011
>> - Universal JDK-6 Update 23 source bundle 12 Nov 2010
>> - No Windows JDK-6 fastdebug binary
>>
>> I think it is fair to expect matching bundles.
> No, not really. For example, JRL was retired last year.
So does that mean, that Oracle JDK-6 Update >23 is no more open source, as the source files are not 
accessible by the public?
I think, on Oracle's download page, the fact, that the available doc and source bundles are from 
older versions, should at least be clearly commented.

>>  From http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk6/ I get a Build b23 OpenJDK source bundle. But to which official Update does it match?
> Assuming by 'official Update' you mean an Oracle JDK release, the answer is: none.
> See http://blogs.oracle.com/darcy/entry/openjdk_6_genealogy for details.
>
> If you're looking for some kind of close synchronization between Oracle JDK and OpenJDK releases,
> I'd recommend that you look at JDK 7, as Oracle JDK 7 is based on OpenJDK 7.
Yes, that's my normal basis to work with. But in some cases I need JDK-6 as basis.

>
>> As I'm on Windows, self-building is not an option. :-(
> It's not that hard. See http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk6/jdk6/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html for details.
> Ask on build-dev if you get stuck.
The hardest Problem is:
The 32-bit OpenJDK Windows build requires Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 (VS2003) Professional 
Edition compiler.


-Ulf



From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Mon Oct 17 05:09:48 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:09:48 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E99500E.70304@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
	<4E99500E.70304@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E9C1B0C.6070907@oracle.com>

On 10/15/11 11:19 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> The hardest Problem is:
> The 32-bit OpenJDK Windows build requires Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 (VS2003) Professional Edition compiler.

I'm not sure that I understand what's hard about it.

cheers,
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From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Mon Oct 17 05:12:46 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:12:46 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9B6A1D.4000307@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
	<4E9B6A1D.4000307@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E9C1BBE.5060903@oracle.com>

On 10/17/11 1:34 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:

> So does that mean, that Oracle JDK-6 Update >23 is no more open source, as the source files are not accessible by the public?

No, as it never was open source. If you want open source, use OpenJDK.

cheers,
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From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Mon Oct 17 08:41:35 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:41:35 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9C1B0C.6070907@oracle.com>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
	<4E99500E.70304@gmx.de> <4E9C1B0C.6070907@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4E9C4CAF.1060300@gmx.de>

Am 17.10.2011 14:09, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/15/11 11:19 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> The hardest Problem is:
>> The 32-bit OpenJDK Windows build requires Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 (VS2003) Professional Edition compiler.
> I'm not sure that I understand what's hard about it.
You want to "mich auf den Arm nehmen" ? ;-)

The hard thing is to find a sponsor for the M$ Visual Studio licence.

-Ulf


From kelly.ohair at oracle.com  Mon Oct 17 08:42:57 2011
From: kelly.ohair at oracle.com (Kelly O'Hair)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:42:57 -0700
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9B6A1D.4000307@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
	<4E9B6A1D.4000307@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <DBD879FF-26F3-4E44-82F4-DED7C86D0208@oracle.com>


On Oct 16, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:

> The hardest Problem is:
> The 32-bit OpenJDK Windows build requires Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 (VS2003) Professional Edition compiler.

Anyone that volunteered a patch that allowed OpenJDK6 to be built with Visual Studio 2010 (or any free version of Visual Studio)
would be welcome. I know it's not a trivial amount of work, but for a Windows guru, might not be that hard.
Just not a priority for me.

OpenJDK6 stuck with VS2003 because that was what worked at the time it was back ported from OpenJDK7, back around jdk7b22.
The OpenJDK7 sources could be mined for the VS2010 changes: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/jdk7/jdk/log?rev=VS2010

-kto

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From dalibor.topic at oracle.com  Mon Oct 17 09:14:36 2011
From: dalibor.topic at oracle.com (Dalibor Topic)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:14:36 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9C4CAF.1060300@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
	<4E99500E.70304@gmx.de> <4E9C1B0C.6070907@oracle.com>
	<4E9C4CAF.1060300@gmx.de>
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On 10/17/11 5:41 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> The hard thing is to find a sponsor for the M$ Visual Studio licence.

In that case I'd suggest moving to OpenJDK 7, which is buildable 
using Visual Studio 2010 Express: 
http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/build/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html#msvc32

cheers,
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From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Mon Oct 17 09:45:57 2011
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:45:57 +0200
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9C546C.10809@oracle.com>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de> <4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>
	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de> <4E98BE51.7030705@oracle.com>
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Am 17.10.2011 18:14, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
> On 10/17/11 5:41 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> The hard thing is to find a sponsor for the M$ Visual Studio licence.
> In that case I'd suggest moving to OpenJDK 7, which is buildable
> using Visual Studio 2010 Express:
> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/build/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html#msvc32
Wow, a big progress. A long awaited is born.

Thanks Dalibor, that would have been my next question to Kelly:
"Does the JDK-7 build with the Express version of VC++ ?"

-Ulf



From philip.race at oracle.com  Mon Oct 17 09:56:58 2011
From: philip.race at oracle.com (Phil Race)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:56:58 -0700
Subject: Missing latest source snapshots for JDK-6
In-Reply-To: <4E9C5BC5.2080907@gmx.de>
References: <4E9704B7.4060702@gmx.de>
	<4E989AD9.8060601@oracle.com>	<4E98B0A1.8010005@gmx.de>
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	<4E9C1B0C.6070907@oracle.com>	<4E9C4CAF.1060300@gmx.de>
	<4E9C546C.10809@oracle.com> <4E9C5BC5.2080907@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4E9C5E5A.4000104@oracle.com>

Yes, JDK 7 32 bit builds with the Express version of VS2010
The free SDK is needed for the 64 bit compilations since Express is 32 
bit only
I made sure of all this when doing the VS2010 upgrade and the build readme
even says so ..

There are closed portions in java plugin that don't build with Express
but that shouldn't matter to you.

-phil.

On 10/17/2011 9:45 AM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Am 17.10.2011 18:14, schrieb Dalibor Topic:
>> On 10/17/11 5:41 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>>> The hard thing is to find a sponsor for the M$ Visual Studio licence.
>> In that case I'd suggest moving to OpenJDK 7, which is buildable
>> using Visual Studio 2010 Express:
>> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7/build/raw-file/tip/README-builds.html#msvc32 
>>
> Wow, a big progress. A long awaited is born.
>
> Thanks Dalibor, that would have been my next question to Kelly:
> "Does the JDK-7 build with the Express version of VC++ ?"
>
> -Ulf
>
>


From philip.race at oracle.com  Wed Oct 19 14:18:01 2011
From: philip.race at oracle.com (Phil Race)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:18:01 -0700
Subject: Updating group web pages.
Message-ID: <4E9F3E89.2020206@oracle.com>

http://openjdk.java.net/groups/2d/ is looking dated.
I'd like to add some content, remove other content but I've
completely forgotten how these pages get updated.
Can anyone help me here ?

-phil.

From neil.richards at ngmr.net  Thu Oct 20 11:37:01 2011
From: neil.richards at ngmr.net (Neil Richards)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:37:01 +0100
Subject: Deleting directories in cr.openjdk.java.net
Message-ID: <1319135821.5671.110.camel@chalkhill>

Hi,
According to the Community Code Review documentation [1], one should be
able to delete a tree of files and directories by sftp'ing to one's
account:

        sftp <username>@cr.openjdk.java.net 

then using 'rename' to move the tree into the ~/.trash subdirectory:
        
        rename 6543210 ~/.trash/6543210


However, when I try to do this, it always tells me that I don't have the
permissions to do this.

Instead, when I've had to prune something out, I've only been able to do
so by using a protracted set of 'rm' (for files) and 'rmdir' (for
emptied directories) which, as you can imagine, quickly becomes
exceedingly tedious.

Is this a problem that other (committers) have encountered ?
Are there suggstions as to any better approaches to pruning one's
contents ?

Any guidance gratefully received.

Thanks, Neil

[1] http://openjdk.java.net/guide/codeReview.html/

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From philip.race at oracle.com  Thu Oct 20 11:43:19 2011
From: philip.race at oracle.com (Phil Race)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:43:19 -0700
Subject: Updating group web pages.
In-Reply-To: <4E9F3E89.2020206@oracle.com>
References: <4E9F3E89.2020206@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4EA06BC7.3080005@oracle.com>

I have had several private replies directing me as to how to do this.
Thank you to those responders.
For the curious,  its not presently possible to update these unless you 
are inside Oracle,
hence the private replies.

-phil.

On 10/19/2011 2:18 PM, Phil Race wrote:
> http://openjdk.java.net/groups/2d/ is looking dated.
> I'd like to add some content, remove other content but I've
> completely forgotten how these pages get updated.
> Can anyone help me here ?
>
> -phil.


From John.Coomes at oracle.com  Thu Oct 20 14:11:46 2011
From: John.Coomes at oracle.com (John Coomes)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:11:46 -0700
Subject: Deleting directories in cr.openjdk.java.net
In-Reply-To: <1319135821.5671.110.camel@chalkhill>
References: <1319135821.5671.110.camel@chalkhill>
Message-ID: <20128.36498.262975.829053@oracle.com>

Neil Richards (neil.richards at ngmr.net) wrote:
> Hi,
> According to the Community Code Review documentation [1], one should be
> able to delete a tree of files and directories by sftp'ing to one's
> account:
> 
>         sftp <username>@cr.openjdk.java.net 
> 
> then using 'rename' to move the tree into the ~/.trash subdirectory:
>         
>         rename 6543210 ~/.trash/6543210

It works for me if you leave off the '~/', e.g.:

	rename foo .trash/foo

The example in the guide doesn't use the '~/' (although the
descriptive text above it does).

-John

From tim.bell at gmail.com  Thu Oct 20 20:35:22 2011
From: tim.bell at gmail.com (Tim Bell)
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:35:22 -0700
Subject: Deleting directories in cr.openjdk.java.net
In-Reply-To: <20128.36498.262975.829053@oracle.com>
References: <1319135821.5671.110.camel@chalkhill>
	<20128.36498.262975.829053@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc9En5VC2sC-LM1qx1DTAfhubRZ2maM7QyOF4nt02Gbf-ZNww@mail.gmail.com>

John spotted it:

> It works for me if you leave off the '~/', e.g.:
>
> ? ? ? ?rename foo .trash/foo
>
> The example in the guide doesn't use the '~/' (although the
> descriptive text above it does).

You are using sftp to access the cr.ojn server, and sftp has no
concept of ~ meaning your home directory.  I wrote the doc, so I'll
try to clarify that section.

Regards-

Tim Bell

From neil.richards at ngmr.net  Fri Oct 28 05:04:04 2011
From: neil.richards at ngmr.net (Neil Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:04:04 +0100
Subject: Deleting directories in cr.openjdk.java.net
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On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 20:35 -0700, Tim Bell wrote:
> John spotted it:
> 
> > It works for me if you leave off the '~/', e.g.:
> >
> >        rename foo .trash/foo
> >
> > The example in the guide doesn't use the '~/' (although the
> > descriptive text above it does).
> 
> You are using sftp to access the cr.ojn server, and sftp has no
> concept of ~ meaning your home directory.  I wrote the doc, so I'll
> try to clarify that section.
> 
> Regards-
> 
> Tim Bell

Hi Tim,
Thanks for looking at this for me.

Unfortunately, leaving off the '~/' still didn't work for me.

It turned out I didn't have write permission to the .trash folder.
(Why are the simplest answers sometimes the hardest to spot? doh!) 

A little deft use of 'rmdir' and 'mkdir', and the problem was solved.

Thanks again,
Neil

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From tim.bell at gmail.com  Fri Oct 28 07:43:40 2011
From: tim.bell at gmail.com (Tim Bell)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:43:40 -0700
Subject: Deleting directories in cr.openjdk.java.net
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> A little deft use of 'rmdir' and 'mkdir', and the problem was solved.

Good work!

Cheers-

Tim