Betterrev re-write in something that works

Fri Sep 5 13:03:52 UTC 2014

Yeah, the initial port of (get it compiling via Maven) meant commented out
most tests and disabling a bunch of stuff.  The code base was far more
reliant on Play specifics than I'd previously realised.  Hopefully it will
be in a shape by next weekend so people can work on it.

Cheers,
Martijn

On 5 September 2014 13:44, Daniel Bryant <daniel.bryant at tai-dev.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi Martijn, all,
>
> Play has unfortunately turned out to be a bit of a pain, but don't blame
> yourself for this Martijn, as several of us were involved in the decision.
>
> With hindsight we probably should have applied the 'Matt Raible' approach
> for framework evaluation, and maybe we should have conducted a few more
> retrospectives along the way? Again though, this is a team effort, and
> therefore all of us are accountable for this...
>
> My main experience is with Spring, but I'm liking the Java EE 7 stuff I
> have been playing around with, and so this migration sounds like a great
> idea. Hopefully we can see more at Hack the Tower :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> One positive is that converting to Java JEE going to make for a great
> chapter in the Betterrev success story :-)
>
>
>
>
> On 30/08/2014 18:52, Martijn Verburg wrote:
>
>> Drop Wizard might be - but I want to avoid the same issue we had with
>> Play/Akka and its ecosystem - which is/was that developers struggled to
>> pick up that stack as well as the core application itself.  I'm concerned
>> that there's a few Red Bus factors, e.g. The build (me), knowledge of Play
>> (sort of a couple of us), Akka (again a few). We've spent far to many hack
>> days explaining the core tech as opposed to building functionality. I
>> think
>> if we want broader volunteer adoption we need to go with a more common
>> dare
>> I say it stds based stack.
>>
>> I've calmed down somewhat since nearly rage quitting on Friday ;-).  I'll
>> give a move to Java EE 7 a go with Ben (he's recently done a project in
>> anger on there, so combined with my JAva EE 6 javacountdown knowledge we
>> should be able to port it).  I'll do this is in a separate branch of
>> course
>> and I may yet bravely return to the Play version (but since it's
>> completely
>> broken our CRUD with the latest release, colour me not so impressed).
>>
>> Hand on heart - I take the blame for this, it's the sort of tech
>> evaluation
>> that we preach which we didn't run ourselves for this project.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martijn
>>
>>
>> On 30 August 2014 11:15, Mani Sarkar <sadhak001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Martijn, Mario,
>>>
>>> I'll be happy to help - lets chat at the next hackday if not before that
>>> at the next LJC event.
>>>
>>> @Martijn - are DropWizard or Spring-boot viable options ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mani
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Martijn Verburg <
>>> martijnverburg at gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> The project is on BitBucket - AdoptOpenJDK org, very happy to have
>>>> volunteers - but I'll need a solid day with a Java EE person to port it
>>>> first (I'm familiar enough with Java EE - but a migration is faster with
>>>> an
>>>> extra pair of eyes).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martijn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 August 2014 18:25, Mario Torre <neugens.limasoftware at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On monday I'll go to visit my university, perhaps I can find somebody
>>>>> interested in helping out, seems like a fun project.
>>>>>
>>>>> <lazy-mode>
>>>>> Can you share the link again?
>>>>> </lazy-mode>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Mario
>>>>> Il 29/ago/2014 18:50 "Martijn Verburg" <martijnverburg at gmail.com> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Play/Scala/Akka/Scala Templating architecture has brought us much
>>>>>>
>>>>> pain
>>>>
>>>>> and suffering for very little gain.  Add to that TypeSafe's attitude of
>>>>>> breaking everything on each minor upgrade is making me thing about a
>>>>>>
>>>>> port
>>>>
>>>>> to Java EE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any Java EE proficient folks on this list that can help me
>>>>>>
>>>>> port
>>>>
>>>>> our existing project over?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Martijn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
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