Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

forax at univ-mlv.fr forax at univ-mlv.fr
Thu Jan 25 13:32:06 UTC 2024


> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>, "Paul Sandoz"
> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:34:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

> Presuming that you mean mutating the Gatherer such that its behavior isn't
> stable, the difference (at least to me) is that creating such a mutable
> Gatherer would violate the specification of Gatherer: [
> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/Gatherer.java#L63
> |
> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/Gatherer.java#L63
> ]

If there is a method characteristics, its spec will also indicates that a flag like STATELESS is only allowed but be used if the state is null. 
Not using STATELESS correctly will be also a violation of the spec. 

> Cheers,
>
regards, 
Rémi 

> Viktor Klang
> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
> Oracle

> From: forax at univ-mlv.fr <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2024 21:04
> To: Viktor Klang <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
> Cc: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Paul Sandoz
> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
> Subject: [External] : Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not
> propagated

>> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>, "Paul Sandoz"
>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 10:06:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

>>> The flags are in sync with the implementation because the only way to create a
>>> Gatherer if through the factory methods and those factory methods (and only
>>> them) compute the proper combination of SEQUENTIAL | STATELESS | GREEDY. A user
>>> should not be able to set those flags. Only the flags KEEP_* are settable by a
>>> user.

>> But I presume this also requires to have a `int characteristics()`-method on the
>> Gatherer interfacewhich means that users who are not using the factory methods
>> will have full possibility of not only returning the flags, but returning any
>> int.

> The current implementation suffers the same kind of issue, it's easy to write a
> mutable Gatherer and change the functions after creation, worst, right in the
> middle of a call to stream.gather(...).

> Perhaps the Gatherer interface should be sealed ? We did not have that option
> during the 1.8 timeframe, when the Collector API was created.

>>> The stream implementation has a whole mechanism in place to propagate/preverse
>>> flags like SIZED, DISTINCT or SORTED. For me, discussing about the merit of
>>> this mechanism seems a little off topic. I would prefer the Gatherer to be a
>>> good citizen and works seemlessly with the other intermediary operations.

>> I can see where you're coming from here, but to me, adding API surface needs to
>> pull its weight.
>> In this case I wasn't convinced that it did, hence we're having this
>> conversation. \uD83D\uDE42

>> Cheers,
>>
> regards,
> Rémi

>> Viktor Klang
>> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
>> Oracle

>> From: forax at univ-mlv.fr <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>> Sent: Monday, 22 January 2024 19:56
>> To: Viktor Klang <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>> Cc: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Paul Sandoz
>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>> Subject: [External] : Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not
>> propagated

>>> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>, "Paul Sandoz"
>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 4:22:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

>>> Hi Rémi,

>> Hello,

>>> For instance, stateless is neither recessive nor dominant, since the composition
>>> of two stateless operations is only ever stateless if they both are greedy as
>>> well: [
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/Gatherers.java*L588__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Lm52jd6kovd5t-cmrqqSLiRcIajBGXLxh85LO3eeiL6UxbKZuNPcUnO6z2i0FzMEoNr7U-cOBuWPCjo57FVW$
>>> |
>>> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/Gatherers.java#L588
>>> ]

>> Okay, so choosing SEQUENTIAL vs PARALELLIZABLE is not that important given that
>> the combination is ad-hoc, reflecting the characterristics is enough.

>>> So even if making it represented as ints (more like Spliterator, rather than
>>> Collector) makes things faster, it's still both work to track, propagate, and
>>> also becomes a side-channel that needs to remain in sync with the actual
>>> implementation of the logic.

>> The flags are in sync with the implementation because the only way to create a
>> Gatherer if through the factory methods and those factory methods (and only
>> them) compute the proper combination of SEQUENTIAL | STATELESS | GREEDY. A user
>> should not be able to set those flags. Only the flags KEEP_* are settable by a
>> user.

>>> One could argue that logic such as: someCollection.stream().map(…).count() is a
>>> performance bug/inefficiency in an of itself as it would be faster to do
>>> someCollection.size().

>> The stream implementation has a whole mechanism in place to propagate/preverse
>> flags like SIZED, DISTINCT or SORTED. For me, discussing about the merit of
>> this mechanism seems a little off topic. I would prefer the Gatherer to be a
>> good citizen and works seemlessly with the other intermediary operations.

>> Cheers,
>>
>> Viktor Klang
>> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
>> Oracle

>> From: forax at univ-mlv.fr <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>> Sent: Monday, 22 January 2024 19:56
>> To: Viktor Klang <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>> Cc: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Paul Sandoz
>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>> Subject: [External] : Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not
>> propagated

>>> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>, "Paul Sandoz"
>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 4:22:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

>>> Hi Rémi,

>> Hello,

>>> For instance, stateless is neither recessive nor dominant, since the composition
>>> of two stateless operations is only ever stateless if they both are greedy as
>>> well: [
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/Gatherers.java*L588__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Lm52jd6kovd5t-cmrqqSLiRcIajBGXLxh85LO3eeiL6UxbKZuNPcUnO6z2i0FzMEoNr7U-cOBuWPCjo57FVW$
>>> |
>>> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/Gatherers.java#L588
>>> ]

>> Okay, so choosing SEQUENTIAL vs PARALELLIZABLE is not that important given that
>> the combination is ad-hoc, reflecting the characterristics is enough.

>>> So even if making it represented as ints (more like Spliterator, rather than
>>> Collector) makes things faster, it's still both work to track, propagate, and
>>> also becomes a side-channel that needs to remain in sync with the actual
>>> implementation of the logic.

>> The flags are in sync with the implementation because the only way to create a
>> Gatherer if through the factory methods and those factory methods (and only
>> them) compute the proper combination of SEQUENTIAL | STATELESS | GREEDY. A user
>> should not be able to set those flags. Only the flags KEEP_* are settable by a
>> user.

>>> One could argue that logic such as: someCollection.stream().map(…).count() is a
>>> performance bug/inefficiency in an of itself as it would be faster to do
>>> someCollection.size().

>> The stream implementation has a whole mechanism in place to propagate/preverse
>> flags like SIZED, DISTINCT or SORTED. For me, discussing about the merit of
>> this mechanism seems a little off topic. I would prefer the Gatherer to be a
>> good citizen and works seemlessly with the other intermediary operations.

>>> Cheers,
>>>
>> regards,
>> Rémi

>>> Viktor Klang
>>> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
>>> Oracle

>>> From: forax at univ-mlv.fr <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2024 17:40
>>> To: Viktor Klang <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>> Cc: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Paul Sandoz
>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>> Subject: [External] : Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not
>>> propagated

>>>> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>>> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>>> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>, "Paul Sandoz"
>>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 5:14:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

>>>>> And for A.andThen(B), A.flags & B.flags should work, the stream is sorted if
>>>>> both gatherers keep it sorted.

>>>> That is unfortunately not the case. That would presume that you can implement
>>>> the composition such that it can preserve all the common flags. Some flags
>>>> could be "dominant" and some "recessive" to use genetics nomenclature.

>>> Some flags of the stream pipeline are "recessive", mainly SHORT_CIRCUIT, but not
>>> the characteristics of the Gatherer which can have the corresponding "dominant"
>>> flag, GREEDY, in this case.
>>> And the same for sequential, the flag should be PARALELIZABLE and not
>>> SEQUENTIAL.

>>> The idea is that the Gatherer characteristics can have the same bit set at the
>>> same position as the stream op flags (as defined by StreamOpFlag).
>>> So KEEP_DISTINCT is in position 0, KEEP_SORTED in in position 2 and KEEP_SIZED
>>> is in position 3.
>>> For GREEDY, we use the same position as SHORT_CIRCUIT and we will flip the bit
>>> (using XOR) when we want to extract the stream op flags from the
>>> characteristics

>>> All the factory methods call the generic of() with a combination of
>>> PARALELIZABLE and STATELESS and the user can adds the characteristics GREEDY,
>>> KEEP_DISTINCT, KEEP_SORTED and KEEP_SIZED (otherwise an exception should be
>>> raised).

>>> In StreamOpFlag, there are two unused positions (14 and 15), that's perfect for
>>> our two new states PARALELIZABLE and STATELESS, so no problem here (technically
>>> we can also reuse positions of the Spliterator characteristic given that those
>>> flags are masked before being sent to the GathererOp super constructor).

>>> The way to transform a Gatherer characteristics op to a stream flags op is to
>>> flip the bits corresponding to SHORT_CIRCUIT, add the highter bit of all flags
>>> but SHORT-CIRCUIT (because stream op flags are encoded using 2 bits) and mask
>>> to only retain SHORT_CIRCUIT, KEEP_DISTINCT, KEEP_SORTED and KEEP_SIZED.

>>> public static int toOpFlags ( int characteristics ) {
>>> return (( characteristics ^ SHORT_CIRCUIT_MASK ) | HIGHER_BITS ) &
>>> STREAM_OP_MASK ;
>>> }

>>> see below for a full script.

>>>>> I suppose that if those flags already exist, it's because they have a purpose
>>>>> and i do not understand how it can make the other operations slower.

>>>> Extra invocations, extra storage, and extra composition overhead is not free.
>>>> Since Stream is one-shot you need to include the construction cost with the
>>>> execution cost. For something like an empty Stream construction cost scan be
>>>> 90+% of the total costs.

>>> If you create a Gatherer, the characteristics is a constant (so the validity
>>> check is removed, it's just a mask and a test) so the result of calling
>>> toOpFlags() is a constant too.

>>> If the factory method is not inlined, the cost is 3 bitwise operations which is
>>> I believe faster than the "instanceof Greedy" used in the current code.

>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Rémi

>>> ---
>>> public class GathererFlag {
>>> // cut and paste from StreamOpFlag
>>> /**
>>> * The bit pattern for setting/injecting a flag.
>>> */
>>> private static final int SET_BITS = 0b01 ;

>>> /**
>>> * The bit pattern for clearing a flag.
>>> */
>>> private static final int CLEAR_BITS = 0b10 ;

>>> /**
>>> * The bit pattern for preserving a flag.
>>> */
>>> private static final int PRESERVE_BITS = 0b11 ;

>>> private static int position ( int opFlagSet ) {
>>> return Integer . numberOfTrailingZeros ( opFlagSet ) >> 1 ;
>>> }

>>> private static final int DISTINCT_POSITION = position ( StreamOpFlag .
>>> IS_DISTINCT );
>>> private static final int SORTED_POSITION = position ( StreamOpFlag . IS_SORTED
>>> );
>>> private static final int SIZED_POSITION = position ( StreamOpFlag . IS_SIZED );

>>> private static final int SHORT_CIRCUIT_POSITION = position ( StreamOpFlag .
>>> IS_SHORT_CIRCUIT );
>>> private static final int STATELESS_POSITION = 14 ;
>>> private static final int PARELLIZABLE_POSITION = 15 ;

>>> public static final int PARELLIZABLE = SET_BITS << ( PARELLIZABLE_POSITION << 1
>>> );
>>> public static final int STATELESS = SET_BITS << ( STATELESS_POSITION << 1 );
>>> public static final int GREEDY = SET_BITS << ( SHORT_CIRCUIT_POSITION << 1 );

>>> public static final int KEEP_DISTINCT = SET_BITS << ( DISTINCT_POSITION << 1 );
>>> public static final int KEEP_SORTED = SET_BITS << ( SORTED_POSITION << 1 );
>>> public static final int KEEP_SIZED = SET_BITS << ( SIZED_POSITION << 1 );

>>> private static final int SHORT_CIRCUIT_MASK = SET_BITS << (
>>> SHORT_CIRCUIT_POSITION << 1 );

>>> // no GREEDY here
>>> private static final int HIGHER_BITS = ( PARELLIZABLE | STATELESS |
>>> KEEP_DISTINCT | KEEP_SORTED | KEEP_SIZED ) << 1 ;

>>> private static final int STREAM_OP_MASK =
>>> (( GREEDY | KEEP_DISTINCT | KEEP_SORTED | KEEP_SIZED ) << 1 ) |
>>> GREEDY | KEEP_DISTINCT | KEEP_SORTED | KEEP_SIZED ;

>>> public static String toString ( int characteristics ) {
>>> return Stream . of ( characteristics )
>>> .< String >mapMulti(( f , consumer ) -> {
>>> if (( f & PARELLIZABLE ) == PARELLIZABLE ) {
>>> consumer .accept( "PARELLIZABLE" );
>>> }
>>> if (( f & STATELESS ) == STATELESS ) {
>>> consumer .accept( "STATELESS" );
>>> }
>>> if (( f & GREEDY ) == GREEDY ) {
>>> consumer .accept( "GREEDY" );
>>> }
>>> if (( f & KEEP_DISTINCT ) == KEEP_DISTINCT ) {
>>> consumer .accept( "KEEP_DISTINCT" );
>>> }
>>> if (( f & KEEP_SORTED ) == KEEP_SORTED ) {
>>> consumer .accept( "KEEP_SORTED" );
>>> }
>>> if (( f & KEEP_SIZED ) == KEEP_SIZED ) {
>>> consumer .accept( "KEEP_SIZED" );
>>> }
>>> })
>>> .collect( Collectors . joining ( ", " ));
>>> }

>>> public static int toOpFlags ( int characteristics ) {
>>> return (( characteristics ^ SHORT_CIRCUIT_MASK ) | HIGHER_BITS ) &
>>> STREAM_OP_MASK ;
>>> }

>>> public static String toOpFlagsString ( int opFlags ) {
>>> return Arrays . stream ( StreamOpFlag . values ())
>>> .map( op -> {
>>> if ( op .isPreserved( opFlags )) {
>>> return "preserved " + op ;
>>> }
>>> if ( op .isCleared( opFlags )) {
>>> return "cleared " + op ;
>>> }
>>> if ( op .isKnown( opFlags )) {
>>> return "set " + op ;
>>> }
>>> return "?? " + op ;
>>> })
>>> .collect( Collectors . joining ( ", " ));
>>> }

>>> void main () {
>>> var characteristics = PARELLIZABLE | STATELESS | GREEDY | KEEP_DISTINCT |
>>> KEEP_SORTED | KEEP_SIZED ;
>>> System . out .println( toOpFlagsString ( toOpFlags ( characteristics )));

>>> var characteristics2 = STATELESS | KEEP_DISTINCT | KEEP_SIZED ;
>>> System . out .println( toOpFlagsString ( toOpFlags ( characteristics2 )));
>>> }
>>> }

>>>> Viktor Klang
>>>> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
>>>> Oracle

>>>> From: forax at univ-mlv.fr <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2024 16:17
>>>> To: Viktor Klang <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>>> Cc: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Paul Sandoz
>>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>>> Subject: [External] : Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not
>>>> propagated

>>>>> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>>>> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>>>> Cc: "core-libs-dev" <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>, "Paul Sandoz"
>>>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 3:36:07 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

>>>>> I suspect that it is a rather slippery slope, once KEEP-flags are added, then
>>>>> others will want to be able to have INJECT-flags, and then people might have
>>>>> different opinions w.r.t. the default should be to clear all flags etc.

>>>>> And that's even before one looks at the composition-part of it, what are the
>>>>> flags for A.andThen(B)? (then extrapolate to N compositions and the available
>>>>> set of flags always approaches 0)

>>>>> I spent quite a bit of time on this and in the end tracking all this info, and
>>>>> making sure that the flags of implementations correspond to the actual
>>>>> behavior, just ended up costing performance for most streams and introduced an
>>>>> extra dimension to creation and maintenance which I had a hard time justifying.

>>>> It can be a slippery slope if we were designing from the ground up but the
>>>> stream implementation already exists and SORTED, DISTINCT and SIZED are the
>>>> flags that are already tracked by the current implementation.

>>>> Currently only SHORT_CIRCUIT is set (if not greedy),
>>>> see [
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/GathererOp.java*L209__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!PhMxqlDzLWPRuwYc7ECRKNPVs0BtnoE-RdT-Jdkng7S-iFuERAHYcWvJ-OMKGLrkPdSrUl3xj1R9ypyeqeWI$
>>>> |
>>>> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/share/classes/java/util/stream/GathererOp.java#L209
>>>> ]

>>>> And for A.andThen(B), A.flags & B.flags should work, the stream is sorted if
>>>> both gatherers keep it sorted.

>>>>> Making specific, rare, combinations of operations faster at the expense of
>>>>> making 99% of all others slower is a hard pill for most to swallow.

>>>> I suppose that if those flags already exist, it's because they have a purpose
>>>> and i do not understand how it can make the other operations slower.

>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Rémi

>>>>> Viktor Klang
>>>>> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
>>>>> Oracle

>>>>> From: forax at univ-mlv.fr <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2024 10:28
>>>>> To: Viktor Klang <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>>>> Cc: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>; Paul Sandoz
>>>>> <psandoz at openjdk.java.net>
>>>>> Subject: [External] : Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not
>>>>> propagated

>>>>>> From: "Viktor Klang" <viktor.klang at oracle.com>
>>>>>> To: "Remi Forax" <forax at univ-mlv.fr>, "core-libs-dev"
>>>>>> <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 8:48:07 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated

>>>>>> Hi Rémi,

>>>>>> You can find some of my benches here: [
>>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/master/test/micro/org/openjdk/bench/java/util/stream/ops/ref__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!JJy6F9NoL6wKZQK5158up_fTRvH8X7F6JK8T7Euuf8vzbSQbr23eWa9S_yb61ksONVrLrdesCF_au5zyje2l$
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/tree/master/test/micro/org/openjdk/bench/java/util/stream/ops/ref
>>>>>> ]

>>>>>> Initially I had Characteristics such as ORDERED etc on Gatherer but it just
>>>>>> didn't end up worth it when looking at the bench results over a wide array of
>>>>>> stream sizes and number of operations.

>>>>> I think there are 3 gatherer characteristics that make sense: KEEP_SORTED,
>>>>> KEEP_DISTINCT and KEEP_SIZED,
>>>>> all of them say that if the stream was sorted/distinct/sized then the stream
>>>>> returned by a call to gather() is still sorted (with the same comparator),
>>>>> distinct or sized.

>>>>> As examples, map() is KEEP_SIZED, filter() is KEEP_SORTED | KEEP_DISTINCT and
>>>>> windowFixed is KEEP_DISTINCT.

>>>>> [CC Paul, so he can correct me if i'm saying something stupid]

>>>>> Now for the benchmarks, it depends what you want to measure, benchmarking
>>>>> streams is tricky. This is what i know about benchmarking streams.
>>>>> First, the JIT has two ways to profile types at runtime,
>>>>> Either a method takes a function as parameter
>>>>> void map(Function function) {
>>>>> function.apply(...)
>>>>> }
>>>>> and when map is called with a subtype of Function, the JIT will propagate the
>>>>> exact type when map is inlined,
>>>>> Or a method use a field
>>>>> class Op {
>>>>> Function function;

>>>>> void map() {
>>>>> function.apply(...)
>>>>> }
>>>>> }
>>>>> in that case, the VM records the profile of function.apply() and if there are
>>>>> more than two different profiles, the VM declare profile poluttion and do not
>>>>> try to optimize.

>>>>> The Stream implementation tries very hard to use only parameters instead of
>>>>> fields, that's why it does not use classical Iterator that are pull iterator (a
>>>>> filter iterator requires a field) but a Spliterator which is a push iterator,
>>>>> the element is sent as parameter of the consumer.That's also why collect does
>>>>> not use the builder pattern (that accumulate values in fields) but a Collector
>>>>> that publish the functions to be called as parameter.

>>>>> Obvisously, this is more complex than that, a Collector stores the functions in
>>>>> fields so it should not work well but the implementation uses a record that
>>>>> plays well with escape analysis. Escape analysis see the fields of an instance
>>>>> as parameters so the functions of a Collector are correctly propagated (if the
>>>>> escape analysis works). And lambdas are using invokedynamic, and the VM tries
>>>>> really hard to inline invokedynamic, so lambdas (that captures value or not)
>>>>> are routinely fully inlined with the intermediate operation of a stream.

>>>>> In your tests, i've not seen comparaisons between an existing method like map()
>>>>> or filter() followed by a sorted()/distinct()/count()/toList(), i.e. operations
>>>>> where the characteristics KEEP_* have an impact and their equivalent using a
>>>>> Gatherer.

>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Rémi

>>>>>> Viktor Klang
>>>>>> Software Architect, Java Platform Group
>>>>>> Oracle

>>>>>> From: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev-retn at openjdk.org> on behalf of Remi Forax
>>>>>> <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2024 16:48
>>>>>> To: core-libs-dev <core-libs-dev at openjdk.java.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Gatherer: spliterator characteristics are not propagated
>>>>>> While doing some benchmarking of the Gatherer API, i've found that the
>>>>>> characteristics of the spliterator was not propagated by the method
>>>>>> Stream.gather() making the stream slower than it should.

>>>>>> As an example, there is no way when reimplementing map() using a Gatherer to say
>>>>>> that this intermediate operation keep the size, which is important if the
>>>>>> terminal operation is toList() because if the size is known, toList() will
>>>>>> presize the List and avoid the creation of an intermediary ArrayList.

>>>>>> See [
>>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/forax/we_are_all_to_gather/blob/master/src/main/java/com/gihtub/forax/wearealltogather/bench/MapGathererBenchmark.java__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!JJy6F9NoL6wKZQK5158up_fTRvH8X7F6JK8T7Euuf8vzbSQbr23eWa9S_yb61ksONVrLrdesCF_auzwTY8aB$
>>>>>> |
>>>>>> https://github.com/forax/we_are_all_to_gather/blob/master/src/main/java/com/gihtub/forax/wearealltogather/bench/MapGathererBenchmark.java
>>>>>> ]

>>>>>> I think that adding a way to propagate the spliterator characteristics through a
>>>>>> Gatherer would greatly improve the performance of commons streams (at least all
>>>>>> the ones that end with a call to toList).

>>>>>> I have some idea of how to do that, but I prefer first to hear if i've overlook
>>>>>> something and if improving the performance is something worth changing the API.

>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Rémi
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