IRC logging of #openjdk

Rob Ross rob.ross at
Sat Aug 2 00:30:40 UTC 2008

Interestingly enough, we had the same sort of experience with our  
local Java study group. The idea was suggested that we record our  
meetings as either a real-time web stream or for a video podcast. I  
thought it was a great idea, because members that couldn't physically  
make it might still be able to participate over the internet, and it  
would be a great archive of our discussions, and hopefully attract  
more people. But many others were uncomfortable with the idea, even  
when we discussed just recording audio only. They felt it would  
stifle their ability to speak freely.

So it's not an uncommon human reaction.


On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Onno Kluyt wrote:

> Hello Brian,
> yes the responses were a little surprising to me as well. When I  
> first read your proposal my reaction was "sure, why not". Then  
> reading the responses from Mark, the Andrews and others on how we  
> use the channel and the nature of communication there I started to  
> think the spontaneity and free-form flow of the conversations are  
> very valuable and it would be a pity if we lost that.
> Onno.
> On Jul 31, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Brian Matzon wrote:
>> Mark Reinhold wrote:
>>> I tend to agree with what Andrew, Mark, Mario, and Andrew have said.
>>> Logging an IRC channel turns it into a more formal, less spontaneous
>>> forum, and #openjdk has so far been pleasantly informal.
>> I must admit that I am a fair bit flabbergasted by the response so  
>> far. It is the first time I have met such a "resistance" against  
>> this service.
>> From the collective 45+ years of logs I have from different  
>> channels, there has never been any change of behavior because  
>> logging has been "enabled".
>> However, it is not my choice on how to proceed - so I will of  
>> course respect the opinions that have been voiced so far.
>> Unless a gash of positive replies are inbound, I will assume that  
>> the service is unwelcome and I will part the bot, and continue to  
>> refrain from publishing the logs.
>> Cheers
>> /matzon

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