Java End of Life Time

[John Yeary]

Do you ever get the feeling like you are standing in the hole you are
digging? I am feeling it now.

JDK6 is currently available in the official Oracle downloads.
Early Access JDK6 is available from http://jdk6.java.net/ is not being
updated in a timely manner. It should probably be updated, but the builds
are there http://jdk6.java.net/download.html

JDK7 is currently available in the official Oracle downloads for a number
of platforms (Windows, Solaris, Linux)
JDK7 Preview for Mac OS X is available from the official Oracle downloads.
Early Access JDK7 is available from http://jdk7.java.net/

OpenJDK 6, 7, and 8 are available for download and building on your
supported platform.

There are a number of folks who build versions of OpenJDK as binary
downloads as a convenience for various versions, platforms, and operating
systems.

Only you can decide if you want to use JDK 7 in production. That remark
about using it seems inflammatory, It is currently the latest version and
supported.

Oracle is not pushing JDK 8. It is not even available. We JUG leaders are
trying to get people invloved in OpenJDK on version 8 to improve the
release when it becomes generally available next year.

The other remarks are seemingly inflammatory, and irrelevant to the
discussion.

John
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> wrote:

> i still confuse, do i need jdk 6 :)
>
>
> my code all still based on 5.. :) to lazy to learn new thing now.. getting
> old
>
>
> can we trust use 7 for our production right now?
>
> and we know oracle push to 8.. but the 7 , is a to much hurry release..
>
> i think after post-acquzition, the upgrade getting more unfriendly (to
> fast). and our work are happy with old one.
>
> F
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM, John Yeary <johnyeary at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ugh!
> >
> > I wasn't implying that it shouldn't be supported right now. As Mark, and
> > Andrew pointed out there are some obstacles and opportunities: "Official"
> > JDK 7 is not available for Mac OSX, and the user community will likely
> need
> > support for OpenJDK 6 going forward.
> >
> > Denis pointed out that Windows builds are not necessarily being consumed
> > with vigor. This will likely be the case as the JDK advances on for
>  other
> > versions as well.
> >
> > I am kind of surprised by Andrew though... I find that folks who are
> using
> > OpenJDK on RedHat will tend to migrate from old tech to new tech quickly.
> > ;-)
> >
> > I think that with limited resources, the folks who are working on OpenJDK
> > (volunteers not paid) will likely focus on the next generation stuff.
> > Anecdotal evidence based on experience. It does open the opportunity for
> > companies to support it in the ecosystem for older editions. Even back
> > porting changes in 7, 8, 9... if they will work and improve the user
> > experience.
> >
> > There are a number of banks who are still on JDK 1.4.2. This represents a
> > big obstacle to moving forward. Eventually, it will be a bigger task once
> > they decide to move ahead. Hopefully, the move won't be to JDK 6. It is
> > like falling up stairs. ;-)
> >
> > John
> >
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> >
> > "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
> > though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits
> who
> > neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray
> twilight
> > that knows not victory nor defeat."
> > -- Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Mark Derricutt <mark at talios.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'd say we need to support it for the simple reason that Java 7 is not
> yet
> >> available on OSX.
> >>
> >> --
> >> "Great artists are extremely selfish and arrogant things" — Steven
> Wilson,
> >> Porcupine Tree
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:11 AM, John Yeary <johnyeary at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Why would we want to continue to support JDK6 when the community is
> >>> focused
> >>> on JDK7, JDK8, and JDK9. There may a future in someone (company) other
> >>> than
> >>> Oracle to provide the support from the OpenJDK side of things.
> However, I
> >>> think that the focus should be on getting companied to stay current.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>