Proposal: Mailing List Cull

Brian Goetz brian.goetz at oracle.com
Wed Mar 13 12:33:18 UTC 2019


panama-spec-experts, valhalla-spec-comments, metropolis-dev are associated with active projects, even though they are getting little traffic.  

lambda-spec-* should go in the first category as this project is complete and its spec is now part of the JLS.  

> On Mar 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Adam Farley8 <adam.farley at uk.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> (Preface: I may be sending this to the wrong list, so advice on the 
> correct list would be appreciated.)
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> There's a lot of mailing lists here, including a few that've been dead for 
> 5 years, and I think it's making it hard for contributors to find the 
> right list.
> 
> Here's a list of mailing lists seeing no/minimal use, and a set of 
> proposals to go with them.
> 
> Proposal 1: Cull (archive) one or more of these mailing list groups, with 
> exceptions made for lists anyone still wants, or actively monitors.
> Why? Because having 151 non-archived mailing lists makes it harder for 
> people to find the right one. Also makes it easier to find black holes 
> (non-monitored lists) to drop valid bugs into.
> 
> Proposal 2: Hide the archived mailing lists on the primary "mailing lists" 
> view.
> Why? Because it dilutes the list of active lists and makes finding the 
> right one harder.
> 
> Proposal 3: Create a short list of the most useful channels to the casual 
> contributor, making it easier to find the primary hotspot, JCL, docs 
> lists, etc.
> Why? Ease of use. Ability to contribute should be based on knowledge of 
> the code base, not knowledge of the mailing lists,
> 
> Proposal 4: Hide the mailing lists whose sole purpose is to display 
> automated messages when a project has been committed to.
> 
> Proposal 4: Make Proposals 2, 3, and 4 the default view when you click on 
> "Mailing lists" from the main page.
> Why? Ease of use again. One form this could take is: the user clicks on 
> "mailing lists" on the primary openjdk page, and sees a minimal list of 
> mailing lists, with toggles to show the lists hidden by 2, 3, and 4.
> 
> Constructive opinions welcome. :)
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Adam Farley 
> IBM Runtimes
> 
> P.S. Spam and "hep please" don't count as emails.
> 
> -- Appendix list:
> 1: Lists with no emails in 2 years or more. (Dead)
> 2: Lists with no emails inside the last 6 months. (Presumed Dead)
> 3: Lists with less than 2 emails (average) per month for the past year 
> (Rosebud)
> 
> -- Appendix 1: (Dead)
> anno-pipeline-dev
> btrace-dev
> compiler-grammar-dev
> cvmi-dev
> friday-stats-dev
> graphics-rasterizer-dev
> guide-discuss
> icedtea-changes
> java-se-8-spec-comments
> java-se-8-spec-experts
> java-se-8-spec-observers
> java-se-9-spec-comments
> java-se-9-spec-experts
> java-se-mr-spec-comments
> javadoc-next-dev
> jep-changes
> kona-dev
> lambda-libs-spec-comments
> lambda-libs-spec-experts
> lambda-libs-spec-observers
> penrose-dev
> penrose-discuss
> tiered-attrib-dev
> type-annotations-dev
> type-annotations-spec-comments
> type-annotations-spec-experts
> type-annotations-spec-observers
> xrender-dev
> 
> -- Appendix 2: (Presumed Dead)
> detroit-dev
> dio-dev
> duke-dev
> graal-changes
> haiku-port-dev
> harfbuzz-dev
> icedtea-test
> java-se-9-spec-observers
> java-se-spec-comments
> jdk-hs-changes
> jmm-dev
> nb-projects-dev
> nio-discuss
> panama-spec-experts
> sandbox-changes
> sctp-dev
> sumatra-dev
> valhalla-spec-comments
> 
> -- Appendix 3: (Rosebud)
> asmtools-dev
> caciocavallo-dev
> conformance-discuss
> doccheck-dev
> jmx-dev
> jol-dev
> lambda-spec-comments
> lambda-spec-experts
> lambda-spec-observers
> macosx-port-dev
> metropolis-dev
> mips-port
> platform-jep-discuss
> 
> 
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