Proposal: Mailing List Cull

[Adam Farley8]

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the info. I've corrected the lists.

lambda-spec-* is now in the new category "project completed" to recognise 
that these lists are now superfluous, without implying that they lack 
activity.

Best Regards

Adam Farley 
IBM Runtimes


Brian Goetz <brian.goetz at oracle.com> wrote on 13/03/2019 12:33:18:

> From: Brian Goetz <brian.goetz at oracle.com>
> To: Adam Farley8 <adam.farley at uk.ibm.com>
> Cc: discuss at openjdk.java.net
> Date: 13/03/2019 12:37
> Subject: Re: Proposal: Mailing List Cull
> 
> panama-spec-experts, valhalla-spec-comments, metropolis-dev are 
> associated with active projects, even though they are getting 
littletraffic. 
> 
> lambda-spec-* should go in the first category as this project is 
> complete and its spec is now part of the JLS. 
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Adam Farley8 <adam.farley at uk.ibm.com> 
wrote:
> > 
> > (Preface: I may be sending this to the wrong list, so advice on the 
> > correct list would be appreciated.)
> > 
> > Hey All,
> > 
> > There's a lot of mailing lists here, including a few that've been dead 
for 
> > 5 years, and I think it's making it hard for contributors to find the 
> > right list.
> > 
> > Here's a list of mailing lists seeing no/minimal use, and a set of 
> > proposals to go with them.
> > 
> > Proposal 1: Cull (archive) one or more of these mailing list groups, 
with 
> > exceptions made for lists anyone still wants, or actively monitors.
> > Why? Because having 151 non-archived mailing lists makes it harder for 

> > people to find the right one. Also makes it easier to find black holes 

> > (non-monitored lists) to drop valid bugs into.
> > 
> > Proposal 2: Hide the archived mailing lists on the primary "mailing 
lists" 
> > view.
> > Why? Because it dilutes the list of active lists and makes finding the 

> > right one harder.
> > 
> > Proposal 3: Create a short list of the most useful channels to the 
casual 
> > contributor, making it easier to find the primary hotspot, JCL, docs 
> > lists, etc.
> > Why? Ease of use. Ability to contribute should be based on knowledge 
of 
> > the code base, not knowledge of the mailing lists,
> > 
> > Proposal 4: Hide the mailing lists whose sole purpose is to display 
> > automated messages when a project has been committed to.
> > 
> > Proposal 4: Make Proposals 2, 3, and 4 the default view when you click 
on 
> > "Mailing lists" from the main page.
> > Why? Ease of use again. One form this could take is: the user clicks 
on 
> > "mailing lists" on the primary openjdk page, and sees a minimal list 
of 
> > mailing lists, with toggles to show the lists hidden by 2, 3, and 4.
> > 
> > Constructive opinions welcome. :)
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > 
> > Adam Farley 
> > IBM Runtimes
> > 
> > P.S. Spam and "hep please" don't count as emails.
> > 
> > -- Appendix list:
> > 1: Lists with no emails in 2 years or more. (Dead)
> > 2: Lists with no emails inside the last 6 months. (Presumed Dead)
> > 3: Lists with less than 2 emails (average) per month for the past year 
(Rosebud)
> > 4: Lists whose associated project has been completed. (Project 
Completed)
> > 
> > -- Appendix 1: (Dead)
> > anno-pipeline-dev
> > btrace-dev
> > compiler-grammar-dev
> > cvmi-dev
> > friday-stats-dev
> > graphics-rasterizer-dev
> > guide-discuss
> > icedtea-changes
> > java-se-8-spec-comments
> > java-se-8-spec-experts
> > java-se-8-spec-observers
> > java-se-9-spec-comments
> > java-se-9-spec-experts
> > java-se-mr-spec-comments
> > javadoc-next-dev
> > jep-changes
> > kona-dev
> > lambda-libs-spec-comments
> > lambda-libs-spec-experts
> > lambda-libs-spec-observers
> > penrose-dev
> > penrose-discuss
> > tiered-attrib-dev
> > type-annotations-dev
> > type-annotations-spec-comments
> > type-annotations-spec-experts
> > type-annotations-spec-observers
> > xrender-dev
> > 
> > -- Appendix 2: (Presumed Dead)
> > detroit-dev
> > dio-dev
> > duke-dev
> > graal-changes
> > haiku-port-dev
> > harfbuzz-dev
> > icedtea-test
> > java-se-9-spec-observers
> > java-se-spec-comments
> > jdk-hs-changes
> > jmm-dev
> > nb-projects-dev
> > nio-discuss
> > sandbox-changes
> > sctp-dev
> > sumatra-dev
> > 
> > -- Appendix 3: (Rosebud)
> > asmtools-dev
> > caciocavallo-dev
> > conformance-discuss
> > doccheck-dev
> > jmx-dev
> > jol-dev
> > macosx-port-dev
> > mips-port
> > platform-jep-discuss
> > 
> > -- Appendix 4: (Project Completed)
> > lambda-spec-comments
> > lambda-spec-experts
> > lambda-spec-observers
> > 
> > 
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number 
> > 741598. 
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3AU
> 

Unless stated otherwise above:
IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 
741598. 
Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU