Question: Where are JEPs discussed?
alex.buckley at oracle.com
Wed May 8 17:29:53 UTC 2019
On 5/8/2019 6:35 AM, Adam Farley8 wrote:
> Does anyone know the answer to this question, raised on jep-changes:
> "What's a good way to stay informed about new JEPs and changes to existing
> Since the jep-changes list is basically silent, and the
> platform-jep-discuss list is near-silent, what would people recommend as a
> medium for JEP discussion?
Early on, JEPs were stored in the jep/jeps repository (the "JEP
Archive"). Changeset notifications for that repository were sent to the
jep-changes list. Nowadays, JEPs are stored in the JDK Bug System, so
the original purpose of the list is gone.
If there is now to be a question asked about whether the JDK Bug System
can send notifications about new issues of type "JEP", that question is
best asked in Project Skara.
The platform-jep-discuss list served to host (i) announcements about new
JEPs and (ii) early discussion of features proposed by new JEPs. I have
- Under Oracle's stewardship, the template for the lifecycle of a JEP
has evolved considerably, so the drafting of a new JEP is not very
significant. It would be actively wrong for someone seeing the
announcement of a draft JEP to infer anything at all about the feature's
scope and schedule, because ...
- ... The six-month release cadence of the JDK Project means that
feature development happens at its own pace in either (a) other Projects
such as Amber or Valhalla, or (b) a Group such as the HotSpot Group, the
Serviceability Group, or the Core Libraries Group. A feature can enjoy
early discussion, prototyping, and polishing on the list of a Project or
a Group while a JEP is being drafted. If the feature prospers, then the
OpenJDK Lead at Oracle may judge that the feature is a candidate for
inclusion in the JDK Project; the candidacy will be announced on the
Project or Group list (this is when the JEP gets a number). If the
feature _really_ prospers, then the OpenJDK Lead may target the feature
for inclusion in a specific release of the JDK Project; its state
changes will then be announced on jdk-dev, though ongoing feature
development obviously stays on the Project or Group list.
It's plain that the rationale for platform-jep-discuss is gone. There is
no direct replacement for it. In a nutshell, JEPs are announced and
discussed on Project and Group lists, and if they prosper, they will be
finalized on jdk-dev.
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