Icedtea supports something called "Pepper"?

[Andrew Hughes]

----- Original Message -----
> On 07/17/2014 02:01 AM, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> On 07/16/2014 05:44 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Jiri Vanek <jvanek at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>> Then please, may you explain what i'm not understand?
> >>>
> >>> The OP referred to "his applets stopped working" on the ORACLE JDK.
> >>> I explained that I think that is due to his applets code being
> >>> UNSIGNED, and that he should, going forward, sign his applets.
> >>> You replied that applets continue to work with Icedtea, and asked if I
> >>> wanted to see Icedtea run unsigned applets without click to play. That
> >>> was NOT what I was saying. I was describing the way Oracle JRE/JDK
> >>> works now, for security reasons. (click to play on unsigned code), and
> >>> that users who see that (applets disabled) jump to the conclusion that
> >>> "his applets stopped working" without getting into the details of
> >>> WHY...
> >>>
> >>
> >> There is (common) misinterpretation in this.
> >>
> >> You must differ
> >>
> >> - oracle (proprietary) JDK
> >> - oracle (proprietary) plugin/webstart implementation
> >> - openjdk (still some distros are using it wrapped by icedtea)
> >
> > All for 6 & 7, as far as I'm aware.
> >
> >> - icedtea-web (another jdk plugin/implementation)
> >> and forcompletness:
> >> - ibm (proprietary jdk)
> >> - ibm plugin and javaws implementation
> >>
> >>
> >> Icedtea-web is implementation of javaws and have its java plugin, similar
> >> to
> >> Oracle's plugin. Even
> >> Ibm java have its plugin+(theirs!) javaws implementation.
> >> Unlike proprietary plugin, which is bundled together with proprietary jdk,
> >> icedtea-web can run on
> >> Openjdk, Oracle JDK and IBM jdk (there are still something to fix with IBM
> >> jdk). Icedtea web is not
> >>    bounded to Openjdk, nor OracleJDk nor IBM.
> >
> > Did you find a way around patching sun.applet.AppletPanel then? Because, as
> > far
> > as I'm aware, IcedTea-Web needs that and it's only in IcedTea.
> >
> 
> Yes I did[1]. It is in 1.5.1 and head. We woek fine with 6,7,8 and
> Oracle+Open JDK. We work even
> with IBM but there are issues with signed appelts (as IBM have different
> libraries - wotk in
> progress here.)

Oh, this is excellent news :)

May be worth opening a bug to remove the patch from IcedTea then? ;)

> 
> The new issue is 9 - and moduels, and so no longer possible usage of
> refelction :(
> 
> 

I guess now is the time to get what you need in 9 upstream.

> J.
> 
> [1]no magic here -
> http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea-web/rev/c6591d36d68a
> 

-- 
Andrew :)

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