Icedtea supports something called "Pepper"?

Jiri Vanek jvanek at redhat.com
Thu Jul 17 09:19:08 UTC 2014


On 07/17/2014 02:01 AM, Andrew Hughes wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 07/16/2014 05:44 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Jiri Vanek <jvanek at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Then please, may you explain what i'm not understand?
>>>
>>> The OP referred to "his applets stopped working" on the ORACLE JDK.
>>> I explained that I think that is due to his applets code being
>>> UNSIGNED, and that he should, going forward, sign his applets.
>>> You replied that applets continue to work with Icedtea, and asked if I
>>> wanted to see Icedtea run unsigned applets without click to play. That
>>> was NOT what I was saying. I was describing the way Oracle JRE/JDK
>>> works now, for security reasons. (click to play on unsigned code), and
>>> that users who see that (applets disabled) jump to the conclusion that
>>> "his applets stopped working" without getting into the details of
>>> WHY...
>>>
>>
>> There is (common) misinterpretation in this.
>>
>> You must differ
>>
>> - oracle (proprietary) JDK
>> - oracle (proprietary) plugin/webstart implementation
>> - openjdk (still some distros are using it wrapped by icedtea)
>
> All for 6 & 7, as far as I'm aware.
>
>> - icedtea-web (another jdk plugin/implementation)
>> and forcompletness:
>> - ibm (proprietary jdk)
>> - ibm plugin and javaws implementation
>>
>>
>> Icedtea-web is implementation of javaws and have its java plugin, similar to
>> Oracle's plugin. Even
>> Ibm java have its plugin+(theirs!) javaws implementation.
>> Unlike proprietary plugin, which is bundled together with proprietary jdk,
>> icedtea-web can run on
>> Openjdk, Oracle JDK and IBM jdk (there are still something to fix with IBM
>> jdk). Icedtea web is not
>>    bounded to Openjdk, nor OracleJDk nor IBM.
>
> Did you find a way around patching sun.applet.AppletPanel then? Because, as far
> as I'm aware, IcedTea-Web needs that and it's only in IcedTea.
>

Yes I did[1]. It is in 1.5.1 and head. We woek fine with 6,7,8 and Oracle+Open JDK. We work even 
with IBM but there are issues with signed appelts (as IBM have different libraries - wotk in 
progress here.)

The new issue is 9 - and moduels, and so no longer possible usage of refelction :(


J.

[1]no magic here -  http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea-web/rev/c6591d36d68a


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