Proposal: ALPN and RSASSA-PSS APIs for Java SE 8 and JDK 8

[Andrew Dinn]

On 10/12/2019 19:50, Volker Simonis wrote:
> What makes you (or Andrew Haley) believe that Oracle would have to
> "review and validate all of the open changes between 8u202 and 8u252"
> (and validate against what)? As I wrote, I'm confident (and I think
> you too) that the current 8u-dev (and therefore 8u252 as well) is
> fully Java SE 8 MR2 compatible (aka. "passes the Java SE 8 MR 2 TCK).
> As such, it can easily be used as a reference implementation for Java
> SE 8. A "reference implementation" must pass the TCK, no more, no
> less.

Well, at the very least there is the the fact that Iris said so. I have
absolutely no reason (or desire) to question her judgement.

> If ReadHat as Maintainer of the OpenJDK 8 Updates project is happy
> with how Oracle handles Java Specification updates and their
> implementation in the OpenJDK versus their own, proprietary
> implementation, I'll be silent and won't complain any more :)
I wasn't intending to speak on behalf of Red Hat, nor Andrew Haley as
jdk8u maintainer. If you re-read my comment you will note that /I/ (not
/we/) merely /recommended/ accepting Oracle's judgement. To me that
doesn't exactly have the ring of a corporate/8u maintainer imprimatur --
but your mileage may vary. So, I'm happy to provide the above qualification.

n.b. as a more general comment regarding my capacity to speak for Red
Hat, the company default is that staff state what they believe to be the
case and only explicitly tag it as the corporate line when it is being
deliberately offered as an explicit corporate line, usually to
distinguish it from one's own views. That is the rare case because at
Red Hat developers have a very large say in defining what the company
line is. Where such a difference of view does arise we are still at
liberty to express our own differing beliefs (and, yes, we usually do ;-).

Regarding what the jdk8u project decides, I am definitely not in a
position to state definitively how the project will be run and my post
should/could never be taken as such. Firstly, I am merely a reviewer not
a (or even /the/) maintainer. Secondly, Andrew Haley leads the jdk8u
project on behalf of the whole community not just Red Hat. So, even if I
might have been taken to be speaking for Red Hat I still could not speak
for him or the community he represents.

regards,


Andrew Dinn
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