2cents from an ordinary Java developer
Jesse Kuhnert
jkuhnert at gmail.com
Wed Feb 3 06:23:31 PST 2010
If it all comes down to guessing/thinking that it's possible ordinary
developers will have issues why doesn't someone(s) just do a small
test sampling of devs?
Pick a comparable enough language (guess Scala) and grab a few
engineers you think would have trouble and record results. There
certainly would seem to be enough resources / developers floating
around at the corporations people on this list work for to make it
worth trying? Could be that everyone is right and closures will not
be understood easily enough, but without any kind of semi-scientific
method for determining this you're still just guessing..
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Mark Mahieu <markmahieu at googlemail.com> wrote:
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> On 3 Feb 2010, at 06:35, Neal Gafter wrote:
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>> The ordinary Java programmers of today are not ordinary programmers
>> from a point of view 5-10 years ago.
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> Neither is the code they work on. My, how the boilerplate hath grown...
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>> As our languages change, so does
>> our sense of common and ordinary.
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> That's very true, and in more ways than one.
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> 5 years ago the team I was working within contained very few programmers with any real experience using a language other than Java. About 2 years ago many of them were spending some of their time in Ruby-land *. As of about a year ago, we have Ruby programmers on the team who have never worked with Java (or they won't admit to having done so, I'm never quite sure).
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> Mark
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> * often their first exposure to lambdas, with "why on earth can't I just write it like that in Java?" being [a polite version of] the typical reaction.
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