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[Alex Buckley]

On 3/30/2010 11:28 PM, Gernot Neppert wrote:
> Hmm, stating that discussions on a public mailing list are "somewhat
> futile" is, with due respect, somewhat futile!

What's futile is not the discussion per se, but the expectation 
doubtless held by some members of this mailing list that the discussion 
will be reviewed by EG members and affect their thinking. No-one can 
guarantee that EG members will do so. Some JCP members will not look at 
any OpenJDK project in any way under any circumstances. The draft Lambda 
spec will most likely be the sole starting point for EG discussions. 
Options explored on the Lambda list but not incorporated into the draft 
spec may have to be independently discovered by EG members.

> Shall we cease to discuss the lambda proposal in its entirety, or just
> refrain from questioning certain aspects that you choose to decide on?

Anyone can discuss anything within the scope of the project defined at 
http://openjdk.java.net/projects/lambda/. By all means question any 
aspect of the draft Lambda spec. Just don't expect a guaranteed "Yes, 
you're right, it will definitely be done your way" response, because 
nothing is definite until the JSR goes final.

> BTW, it seems to me that many of those contributing to this discussion
> here can be considered "experts" on the topic. Thus, the prospective
> members of the "real" Expert Group would be well advised to consult
> this mailing list...

Members of this mailing list are encouraged to join the JCP and, when 
the time comes, nominate themselves for EG membership for the Lambda 
JSR. That is the best way to ensure a thorough EG discussion. I for one 
would reproduce the content of the "Summary" mails for EG members.

Alex