Handling updates to the JavaFX Caspian look

Jonathan Giles jonathan.giles at oracle.com
Wed Apr 25 13:55:56 PDT 2012


I put it the way I did so that anyone else here on the openjfx-dev list 
has to pick favourites :-) Hopefully soon as I'm off to JavaaOne India 
next week and would like to iterate before then.

-- Jonathan

On Thursday, 26 April 2012 8:54:38 a.m., Richard Bair wrote:
> Unless you disagree in which case discuss!
>
> On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Jonathan Giles wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rich for your feedback. I'll go back to the initial, simpler API that I proposed.
>>
>> -- Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On 26/04/2012 8:31 a.m., Richard Bair wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I've updated the JIRA issue with my thoughts. I think we've gone too far with this one and should stick basically with the original concept -- a String for the "userAgentStyleSheet" and a constant for "CASPIAN". We could put the constants for this on Scene or Control, but they'd just be a String. Rationale on the issue!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Jonathan Giles wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm asking for another 24 hour review countdown on this API change, after which I'll assume an implicit approval has been granted if nothing is heard.
>>>>
>>>> The current patch is attached to Jira for your reviewing pleasure. This changeset affects the Application class by adding set/get/property Theme methods, a convenience setTheme(String themeID) method, and introduces two new public API classes: Theme and Themes. I could easily be convinced to simplify the Application API changes.
>>>>
>>>> http://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-19713
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On 14/03/2012 12:47 p.m., Jonathan Giles wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I came across the RT-19713 [1] Jira issue I filed against myself recently. This Jira issue basically states that we should have API in JavaFX that allows for developers to lock down and specify a particular default stylesheet, and if this isn't specified by the developer, they will be automatically updated in future releases if we ever consider changing the default style sheet. We would always ship earlier style sheets as well, so if the preference was set, the style sheet would be there in the jar file.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason why I want this feature is that I've seen tweaked caspian style sheets (for example the one used in the upcoming Scene Builder tool) that I would one day love to be the default style sheet for JavaFX as it (in my opinion) is more refined. Similarly, I don't think anyone wants to end up in the same situation as Swing, where the default L&F is Metal, because moving the default to a more modern L&F would potentially break (or at least maim) many deployed Swing applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally we would have had API like this from the get-go, but alas, it did not happen. Adding API now that by default auto-updates people is of course breaking a contract we have with developers, but I feel that it is better to break this contract now than to forever wish that we could provide a new style sheet and never be able to do it. I think the main thing is to communicate this change as loudly and from as many roof tops as possible. Perhaps there are others on this list that disagree and have different opinions. Feel free to share them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, as of now, there is no intention to ship an updated style sheet that would replace the default, but I'm looking ahead to future releases where this may be desired. Perhaps JavaFX 3.0 may include a visual refresh, for example. If anyone has any thoughts on this proposal, please reply on this thread (and preferably also leave a comment on the Jira issue). I don't have any proposed API for this issue, but if anyone has any thoughts on this, please feel free to share them also.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-19713
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jonathan
>


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