No JavaFX for iOS, Android or WP - why not?

[Tobias Bley]

John, many thanks for your post! I absolutely agree with you. JavaFX without real(!) crossplatform support on the major platforms is an absolutely MUST HAVE. I can't understand Oracles point of view ("we don't know if developers and companies have a real interested in JavaFX2 on mobile) too - that's unbelievable!

John, please write to Richard Bair, he wants to know our opinion about this topic!

Best,
Tobi


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Am 09.10.2012 um 10:18 schrieb "John C. Turnbull" <ozemale at ozemail.com.au>:

> Hi Tobi,
> 
> I realise it's not an official Oracle statement but that's part of the
> problem; Oracle didn't make an official statement on this at JavaOne when I
> suspect many people were hoping for one.  In fact, I seem to remember a
> session titled something like "JavaFX on iOS" was being tossed around for
> possible inclusion in this year's JavaOne some time ago.
> 
> It's blatantly clear that Java developers *crave* JavaFX on mobiles and yet
> Oracle are waiting for clear commercial interest to justify such support?
> As has been pointed out several times, JavaFX cannot be considered a success
> if it is limited to the scope of the desktop and perhaps some embedded
> devices.  Many predict that the PC in its current form will largely
> disappear in the next 5 years so where would that leave JavaFX?
> 
> Java developers are largely passionate about their language and do not want
> to learn Objective C or C# or whatever language is required on each device.
> 
> In my opinion, being able to code in Java and deploy to Windows, Linux,
> MacOS, iOS, Android, Metro etc. could propel JavaFX to amazing heights as
> the best platform for client side software development on the planet.
> Please Oracle, don't miss this enormous opportunity!  What do we have to do
> to convince you that this REALLY IS A GOOD IDEA?
> 
> -jct
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tobias Bley [mailto:tobi at ultramixer.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:10
> To: John C. Turnbull
> Cc: openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
> Subject: Re: No JavaFX for iOS, Android or WP - why not?
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> first of all: that's not an official press release of Oracle...
> 
> second: please take part of the current discussion on JavaFX forum about
> "JavaFX on iOS, Android and Windows 8":
> https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2448461&tstart=0
> 
> Richard Bair there asked for developers and companies who have a real
> (commercial) interested in using JavaFX on iOS.... So please please write
> Richard an email to show him your real interested.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tobi
> 
> blog.software4java.com
> 
> 
> 
> Am 09.10.2012 um 08:24 schrieb "John C. Turnbull" <ozemale at ozemail.com.au>:
> 
>> I didn't have the pleasure of being at JavaOne but in a blog by Lucas 
>> Jellema (and retweeted by Nicolas Lorain) the following is stated:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "JavaFX is no longer intended for use on SmartPhones. The iPhone, 
>> Android and Windows Mobile phones are provided by the respective 
>> platforms, there is no room there for JavaFX. JavaFX is targeted at 
>> the desktop to replace Swing and at smaller devices that run embedded
> Java."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is extremely disappointing especially after having seen demos of 
>> JavaFX running on iOS and Android devices.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can someone explain why this decision has been made?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -jct
>> 
>