Testing accessibility / sample apps
Kevin Rushforth
kevin.rushforth at oracle.com
Wed Jun 25 14:51:07 UTC 2014
I usually add jfxrt.jar to the bootclasspath, but as long as you have
removed jfxrt.jar from your JDK, classpath will work, too.
-- Kevin
Jann Schneider wrote:
> Hi Felipe!
>
> thanks, this are good News :-)
> Well yesterday i had some issues with the build bc the famous Windows
> updates Feature screwed things up .. however, i've recently fixed it
> so i'll try it today.
> Just another question concerning testing with the "build from
> sources": i guess i can just run the example apps located in
> <openjfx>/apps/ ? What would be the proper way to invoke one of them
> and make sure the proper jfx is loaded?
> Do i have to add it to the boot cp? Or is it enough to just put it on
> the classpath?
>
> Regards Jann
>
>
> 2014-06-25 7:17 GMT+02:00, Felipe Heidrich <felipe.heidrich at oracle.com>:
>
>> Hi Jann,
>>
>> I have re-enabled all the accessibility code in
>> hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt
>> Notes:
>> I have also released the fix for JAWS (RT-37530). But before testing text
>> edits you will need to add a setting to JAWS, see
>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-37609
>> You still need the -Djavafx.accessible.force=true on Windows 7, but very
>> soon that will not be needed anymore, see:
>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-37702
>>
>> Internally we did virtually all our testing using Narrator and VoiceOver,
>> which are the native screen readers on Windows and MacOSX respectively.
>> I believe you will be the first to try JAWS and NVDA on Windows 7. Let me
>> know how it goes.
>>
>> Regards
>> Felipe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:50 AM, Jann Schneider <jann.schneider at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Felipe,
>>>
>>> i tried with the latest available EA build, java -version tells me:
>>>
>>> java version "1.8.0_20-ea"
>>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_20-ea-b19)
>>> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.20-b19, mixed mode, sharing)
>>>
>>> Also i used Jaws 15 (-.0.9 i think) and as an alternative NVDA 14.2.
>>> Hum, not quite sure about the narrator tool: i guess thats the one
>>> that shipps with windows? Well i can try this too though i'm not
>>> really used to it :)
>>>
>>> Maybe it's better to just wait until the code is back and test with
>>> the current sources.. So we have the same base and know exactly what
>>> we expect for the tests.
>>>
>>> Regards Jann
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-06-21 5:16 GMT+02:00, Felipe Heidrich <felipe.heidrich at oracle.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jann,
>>>>
>>>> That is great that you got to build JavaFX, it will make much easier to
>>>> test
>>>> patches and fixes going forward.
>>>> That said, assuming that you downloaded jdk1.8.0_20 b19 or less,
>>>> accessibility should have worked.
>>>> What is the output of java -version ? Can you try Narrator ?
>>>>
>>>> I’ll put the code back early next week, either Monday or Tuesday.
>>>> You can track the progress here:
>>>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-37536
>>>> I’ll email the list when the code is out.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Felipe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Jann Schneider
>>>> <jann.schneider at googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ok i just rebuild using the 32 bit jdk and this works!
>>>>> $ gradle clean sdk
>>>>> ...
>>>>> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think i've just installed the 32 bit C++ compilers only. Maybe i
>>>>> missed a setting in the installer of visual studio .. btw. i build
>>>>> with the VS 2010 express (as suggested at the wiki).
>>>>>
>>>>> So i'll wait until the accessibility portion is back in the repo and
>>>>> try with that included then. Thanks for your help so fahr!
>>>>> @Steve: could you please send a short message to the list if the
>>>>> accessibility sources are in the repo again?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Jann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-06-20 23:50 GMT+02:00, Jann Schneider
>>>>> <jann.schneider at googlemail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes looks like i have an issue with looking up cl.exe.
>>>>>> This was the output when running with --stacktrace:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Exception is:
>>>>>> org.gradle.api.tasks.TaskExecutionException: Execution failed for task
>>>>>> ':fxpackager:buildJavaPackager'.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Caused by: org.gradle.api.GradleException: Could not call
>>>>>> NativeCompileTask.compile() on task ':fxpackager:buildJavaPackager'
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Caused by: java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException:
>>>>>> org.gradle.process.internal.ExecException: A problem occurred starting
>>>>>> process 'command 'C:/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio
>>>>>> 10.0/VC/BIN/amd64/cl.exe''
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Caused by: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "C:/Program Files
>>>>>> (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0/VC/BIN/amd64/cl.exe" (in directory
>>>>>> "D:\jann\sandbox\java\openjfx\modules\fxpackager"): CreateProcess
>>>>>> error=2, Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Caused by: java.io.IOException: CreateProcess error=2, Das System kann
>>>>>> die angegebene Datei nicht finden (file not found)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually cl.exe is located at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual
>>>>>> Studio 10.0\VC\bin - but it looks for ...bin/amd64/cl.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also tried to run the build from the cygwin terminal and as well
>>>>>> from the visual studio command prompt where i could call cl.exe
>>>>>> directly .. Always the same result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a parameter to specify where theVS compiler and stuff is
>>>>>> located? btw. i checked that the %VS100COMNTools% variable is set
>>>>>> properly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What else could i check? Thanks in advance :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-06-20 23:30 GMT+02:00, Kevin Rushforth
>>>>>> <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * What went wrong:
>>>>>>>> Execution failed for task ':fxpackager:buildJavaPackager'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could not call NativeCompileTask.compile() on task
>>>>>>>> ':fxpackager:buildJavaPackager'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I've seen this in the past it's been related to the compiler
>>>>>>> install. Do you have VS 2010 SP1 or something else?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jann Schneider wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well on windows it's always a bit more difficult i guess :-)
>>>>>>>> After setting up my build environment as described on the wiki i
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>>> $ gradle tasks
>>>>>>>> This works as expected! When running
>>>>>>>> $ gradle sdk
>>>>>>>> or just gradle without any target i get the following error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * What went wrong:
>>>>>>>> Execution failed for task ':fxpackager:buildJavaPackager'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could not call NativeCompileTask.compile() on task
>>>>>>>>> ':fxpackager:buildJavaPackager'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this a "known issue" and do you know what's going wrong here?
>>>>>>>> Should i post more "info" or "debug" output, too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Jann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-06-20 21:58 GMT+02:00, Stephen F Northover
>>>>>>>> <steve.x.northover at oracle.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being non-Unix, Windows is always a pain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2014-06-20, 3:42 PM, Kevin Rushforth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope you have similar success with the Windows build.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jann Schneider wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The build instructions for linux where very good! I was able to
>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>> the project without any problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Jann
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-06-20 19:27 GMT+02:00, Kevin Rushforth
>>>>>>>>>>> <kevin.rushforth at oracle.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To be clear, you will still use the 8u-dev repo at the existing
>>>>>>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just that after Monday the repo will "become" the place
>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8u40
>>>>>>>>>>>> work is done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the build, it is a bit painful to set up for Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> too bad as long as you don't need to build WebKit. We would be
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in hearing whether the instructions on the Wiki are
>>>>>>>>>>>> sufficient for you to get the build working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Kevin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen F Northover wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, let us know how you get on with building FX.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE: The accessibility code is not there in 8u20 so you will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensuring that you can build on Windows (there is nothing there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> test). The accessibility code will be going back into 8u40 on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or Tuesday so you'll need to get that release at that time and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it instead when it becomes available. It's good to debug the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process though because it can be painful building from source.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2014-06-20, 12:43 PM, Jann Schneider wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Steven: thx for the links. I'll try to build the openjfx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the windows 7 notebook and test the sample apps with NVDA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today i tried the latest ea of jdk1.8.0_20 and sample apps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nvda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14.2. Unfortunately i was not able to read anything except the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just installed the jdk, changed my JAVA_HOME and tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. the ensemble.jar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ java -jar ensemble.jar -Djavafx.accessible.force=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well i'll try it again by means of building javafx from source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post my results back to the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Jann!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-06-20 14:46 GMT+02:00, Stephen F Northover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <steve.x.northover at oracle.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Jann!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as the 8u40 repos open, the Accessibility code will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with the recent fixes for JAWS. Since OpenJFX (and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JDK) does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have nightly builds, unless you want to wait for an EA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8u40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 9, you will need to get OpenJFX and build it. This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best way to work with the team anyway because you can get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are made. EA builds take a while to come out and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> substitute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for running on the latest code base.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately due to Microsoft, building OpenJFX is a bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows. However, it is doable and the build instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete. If they are not (and if you hit any problems),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the build instructions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Building+OpenJFX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many committers use an IDE (you don't have to) and OpenJFX is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the three major IDE vendors:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/OpenJFX/Using+an+IDE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to working with you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2014-06-19, 7:10 PM, Felipe Heidrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jann,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Linux support is not in the plan for 8u40.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 is supported and we have recently fixed JAWS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-37530 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-37609).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately due to the 8u20 to 8u40 transition the code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> released yet, but soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The majority of our testing was done using Narrator. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tested NVDA lastest version on Windows 8 and I didn’t see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Mac we tested with VoiceOver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felipe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Jann Schneider
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jann.schneider at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a blind java developer i'm interessted in testing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JavaFX and maybe help to find some issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just set up my build environment on my ubuntu 14.04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checked out the project files as described in the wiki. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it up on a windows 7 with Jaws 15 and NVDa (don't know what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is) for comparison..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No i am wondering if there are some examples i could try?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Jann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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