8u40 is released

[Mark Fortner]

I think the real "killer app" with JavaFX is the fact that you can maintain
a single codebase that runs on iOS, Android, and every desktop you can
think of without doubling or tripling development and maintenance costs.
SceneBuilder means that graphic designers and UX gurus can play an integral
role in the development process without creating "throwaway artifacts".
They can leverage their CSS, and graphic design skills, to make a truly
rich user experience, that developers can build upon.  No more wireframes
or comps that you can't build on.

You don't have to deal with the headaches, and additional costs that come
with having to maintain multiple code bases. When I show some of the
YouTube videos of JavaFX in action on mobile platforms, and then show
SceneBuilder, people are floored.

Currently mobile developers are banging their heads dealing with mobile
web, hybrid and native application stacks, and all of the headaches that
those environments engender.  Different IDEs, different languages,
maintaining the LnF and branding across those platforms, maintaining the
functionality across those platforms, that when they see something like
JavaFX, you can see the interest in moving to a simpler development stack.

Why Oracle isn't marketing the hell out of this, I don't know.  But they're
missing a real opportunity to take back the mobile mindshare they've lost.
JavaONE can't be the only venue where you talk about this.  This should be
talked up and demonstrated at every mobile developer conference that you
can think of.

Cheers,

Mark


On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Johan Vos <johan at lodgon.com> wrote:

> I think it is really important to make a clear distinction between Oracle
> as a (database/middleware) company and Oracle as the Java Steward.
>
> As a Java Steward, Oracle is dedicated to the future of Java, which
> includes JavaFX. The Oracle engineers contribute most of the code and
> provide excellent support and communication to the community.
>
> As a company, Oracle can decide that e.g. a commercially supported
> SceneBuilder, or JavaFX on embedded, or whatever... is not in line with
> their business goals. However, this does not mean that the technology is
> not good or has no chance in another business constellation. I am not in
> the business of selling cars, but that does not mean I don't believe in the
> car industry.
>
> Personally, I think that both SceneBuilder and JavaFX on Pi could lead to
> more revenue on the backend, but if Oracle doesn't see it this way, hey
> it's their business decision :)
>
> Good enough, they take their job as a Java Steward serious, and that shows
> by the many great features that have been added in JavaFX 8u40.
>
> - Johan
>
>
>
>
> 2015-03-04 23:18 GMT+01:00 Tobias Bley <tobi at ultramixer.com>:
>
> > In the past there were 2 bad signs from Oracle concerning JavaFX: end of
> > support for JavaFX on RaspPi and SceneBuilder...
> >
> > So does have JavaFX a future?
> >
> > Tobi
> >
> >
> > > Am 04.03.2015 um 23:14 schrieb Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net>:
> > >
> > > That's great Johan, but ...... what does this mean, exactly? Is SB
> > > effectively dead at this point? Short of some horrifically convoluted
> > > corporate politics I can't understand why Oracle would develop an
> > > application but not provide downloads of it. Does this mean SB won't be
> > > upgraded past 8u40?
> > >
> > > I mean - I don't think it's unreasonable of me to be surprised by this,
> > and
> > > I thought I followed JFX development pretty closely. What's the story
> > here?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Johan Vos <johan at lodgon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Oracle stated that they won't release new binaries for SceneBuilder,
> but
> > >> since the code is open-source and BSD licensed, third parties and the
> > Java
> > >> Community in general can create binaries based on the SceneBuilder
> > sources.
> > >> This is what we did at Gluon (http://gluonhq.com), and the result can
> > be
> > >> downloaded at http://gluonhq.com/products/downloads/
> > >> This download is based on the latest 8u40 source code in OpenJFX. It
> > >> includes the 8u40 Controls (e.g. Spinner, Dialogs).
> > >>
> > >> Hope this is helpful.
> > >>
> > >> - Johan
> > >>
> > >> 2015-03-04 16:31 GMT+01:00 Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net>:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Kevin,
> > >>>
> > >>> Scene Builder source code is available in the OpenJFX repo under the
> > BSD
> > >>>> license, but separate binaries are no longer being released as of
> > 8u40.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm a bit confused what this means.
> > >>>
> > >>> People who want to use Scene Builder are expected to compile it
> > themselves
> > >>> from now on? Does that really make sense? Presumably the idea here is
> > that
> > >>> SB will be integrated into IDEs and will no longer have any purpose
> as
> > a
> > >>> standalone app, but I'm not sure we're ready to go there yet - the
> last
> > >>> time I tried the SB integration into IntelliJ it was extremely basic
> > and
> > >>> far below the experience of the dedicated app.
> > >>>
> > >>> As just one example, UI design benefits a lot from maximal screen
> > space.
> > >>> IDE embeddings often don't provide that.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>