Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

[Felix Bembrick]

Unfortunately, it has a lot to do with it.

Do you actually realise how much of the entire JMC is written using JavaFX? (Not to mention what percentage of Java developers even know about or use JMC).

Please check and then feel free to respond and enlighten us all with your findings.  100%? At least 90% surely? Hmm...

And, if there are actually any *other* "vestiges" of JavaFX usage within Oracle, I would be delighted to hear about them!

In fact, I am confident the entire JavaFX community would absolutely love to hear that it's obviously being used in  hundreds of internal applications (especially with Oracle being such a huge Java-focused company).  I mean it is the "standard" way of building GUI applications with Java right? So of course they would have no reason whatsoever to not base their entire internal software product suite on this advanced and clearly well supported technology.

And throw in the dozens of commercial JavaFX offerings from Oracle and...

> On 10 Jun 2016, at 21:01, Tom Schindl <tom.schindl at bestsolution.at> wrote:
> 
> What has the removal of JMX for JavaFX todo with Oracle using JavaFX
> themselves?
> 
> There are projects at Oracle who for sure do use JavaFX and one of them
> is installed in your JDK! It's Java-Mission-Control.
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On 10.06.16 12:46, Felix Bembrick wrote:
>> I am taking that as a "yes" answer to my original question.
>> 
>> On a completely unrelated topic, do Microsoft employees all have Macs on their desktops and carry iPhones and iPads around?
>> 
>> No?
>> 
>> Well I bet Apple employees do!
>> 
>>> On 10 Jun 2016, at 20:01, dalibor topic <dalibor.topic at oracle.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suspect that particular plugin is extremely rarely used, judging by https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=%22javafx-mx.jar%22&type=Code&ref=searchresults showing 0 results.
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> dalibor topic
>>> 
>>>> On 09.06.2016 00:31, Kevin Rushforth wrote:
>>>> As some of you may be aware, JavaFX has shipped a JMX plugin as a
>>>> separate jar file along with the JDK (not part of the JRE) in
>>>> <JDK>/lib/javafx-mx.jar. Development on this plugin stopped prior to JDK
>>>> 8 being shipped, although we continued to ship javafx-mx.jar in JDK 8.
>>>> 
>>>> Are there any developers that still use this? We haven't seen any bug
>>>> reports or had questions on it for quite a while. I note that this jar
>>>> file has been gone from JDK 9 ea since build 111 and we are trying to
>>>> determine how best to address this in JDK 9.
>>>> 
>>>> Our options are:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Remove it entirely and drop this tooling support
>>>> 
>>>> 2) Continue to ship it as a legacy jar file, meaning that any use would
>>>> require command line qualified exports to be added since it uses
>>>> internal packages
>>>> 
>>>> 3) Turn it into a proper JDK-only module, javafx.jmx; it would not be
>>>> one of the default modules, so it would need to be added with -addmods.
>>>> 
>>>> Obviously #1 would be the least amount of work, and given that it isn't
>>>> being actively maintained, might be a viable solution. If we do need to
>>>> keep it, then #2 might be less effort than #3, while still preserving
>>>> the ability for developers to use it. This is only used for tooling, so
>>>> requiring qualified exports, as is done for Robot and
>>>> PerformanceTracker, is not a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Separately, if we don't remove it for JDK 9, we probably will deprecate
>>>> it with the intention to remove it in a future release.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Kevin
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