Matrox Graphics Cards Problems

[Matthew Elliot]

Hey Anirvan,

Thanks for the info - guess it’s not such a promising route either then. 

As these Jira for Matrox cards in JavaFX were from 2013 is it possible that later Matrox cards / drivers would now work if this global disablement was not present. I.e is forceGpu enough to test such scenarios?
Or would I need to create another bug report for investigation at Oracle?

To the wider group, has anyone else outside Oracle contributed code dealing with supporting graphics cards?

Would something like implementing a workaround for whatever deficiency is present (pixel shaders?! from comments in Bug reports) even be possible / practical?

Theoretically this could become an interesting topic for my company if a few percent of our users have these types of cards (which is possible) and it could be useful to the wider community. 

Kind regards,
Matt

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> On 18/05/2018, at 7:09 PM, Anirvan Sarkar <powers.anirvan at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> 
> OpenGL pipeline on Windows is not a supported configuration and so it is not present in JavaFX for Windows[1][2].
> You would have to build JavaFX yourself to include this pipeline and "use it at your own risk". It may or may not work.
> Also it looks like the card should support OpenGL 2.1 or later[3].
> 
> [1]: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/jfx-dev/rt/file/071b040b8736/build.gradle#l478
> [2]: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2014-July/014936.html
> [3]: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/jfx-dev/rt/file/071b040b8736/modules/javafx.graphics/src/main/native-prism-es2/windows/WinGLFactory.c#l252
> 
> 
>> On 18 May 2018 at 04:32, Matthew Elliot <matthew.james.elliot at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey, thanks for the second link, exactly what I needed just not the best news. 
>> 
>> I see all Matrox cards are disabled which is a bit tricky for us when many of our customers are have 4+ monitors and some have chosen those cards. 
>> 
>> I then managed to find this - https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8103350
>> I assume this means there will never be support of these cards or is there a work around? I.e. I see they support OpenGL so could I install OpenGL on a windows machine and try that pipeline?
>> Is this exclusion of all Matrox cards still valid?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Matt
>> 
>> Sent from my phone.
>> 
>>> On 17/05/2018, at 5:15 PM, Anirvan Sarkar <powers.anirvan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Matthew,
>>> 
>>> Please see the below file for blaclisted hardware on D3D. 
>>> 
>>> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/jfx-dev/rt/file/9e0e0e65e642/modules/javafx.graphics/src/main/native-prism-d3d/D3DBadHardware.h
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Anirvan
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 17 May 2018 at 11:04 PM, Matthew Elliot <matthew.james.elliot at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> we have some customers in the wild who use Matrox 9148LP (9100 series)
>>>> graphics cards because they drive more than 2 monitors and JavaFX always
>>>> reports an error initializing HW pipeline and forcing gpu results in system
>>>> instability.
>>>> 
>>>> I checked the bug reports but couldn't see anything about JavaFX and Matrox
>>>> cards.
>>>> 
>>>> Questions
>>>> Is anyone aware of an existing issue?
>>>> Is there a way to get more details on why JavaFx fails to enable the D3D
>>>> pipeline?
>>>> Is there a list of known problematic graphics cards or a black list of
>>>> graphics cards where JavaFX falls back?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Matt
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Anirvan