Creating a high level Pointer API

[John Rose]

This is a dev list.  People are trying to code here.

On Jan 10, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Ty Young <youngty1997 at gmail.com> wrote:
> … you largely ignore entirely ...…
>  you neither are willing to recognize it as a possible problem or refute it.
> …Like I've said in the past(and you seem to just ignore)…
> …you seem to be putting your head in the sand whenever it's brought up and shouting "just use the jextract API!”
> …sealing the interfaces is a giant middle finger.


So let's please tone this down, Ty.  Maurizio is a reasonable guy,
and he has the trust of many people.  If perhaps he isn’t satisfying
you with his explanations, that’s the way it is.  Please, let’s try to
use a constructive tone on this alias, better adapted to the purpose
of helping people develop on the Panama project.  Disagreement
about the detailed decision making is OK, but please trust
people to hear and disagree, rather than assuming that they
are somehow refusing to satisfy a just demand.  Your comments
are noted, but they are not going to be our highest priority.
Making insistent and dismissive personal observations is not
going to amplify your message, and it is starting to harm the
signal to noise ratio on this alias.

I’m actually sympathetic with the point that we want a Pointer
type in the JDK, for the various reasons you mention.  I put it in
in the first place.  But the bar is extraordinarily high for placing
an API into the JDK, and we routinely discard many, many good
ideas when evaluating JDK contents.  I trust Maurizio to correctly
weigh whether Pointer is JDK-worthy.

Please try harder to internalize Maurizio’s position, because that’s
what we’re going with.

— John