RFR CSR for 8213400: Support choosing curve name in keytool keypair generation
Bernd Eckenfels
ecki at zusammenkunft.net
Tue Nov 6 07:41:29 UTC 2018
Hello,
I would agree ignoring an (conflicting) option adds confusion. When specifying a curve is a new feature we don’t need to worry about beeing compatible, therefore I would forbid mixing curve names and keysize at all (even when the size matches).
I guess we cannot remove the option to only pass the keysize (to have the generator pick a curve) to stay compatible. But the chosen curve should be printed, and I would also deprecate this usage.
I guess clarifying the keysize-only init() method would be a different topic, but something like deprecating it and restricting the selection to „SunEC only selects NIST prime curves“ would be a good thing.
Gruss
Bernd
Gruss
Bernd
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Von: security-dev <security-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net> im Auftrag von Xuelei Fan <xuelei.fan at oracle.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, November 6, 2018 7:38 AM
An: Weijun Wang
Cc: security-dev at openjdk.java.net
Betreff: Re: RFR CSR for 8213400: Support choosing curve name in keytool keypair generation
On 11/5/2018 8:37 PM, Weijun Wang wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Xuelei Fan <xuelei.fan at oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/5/2018 7:13 PM, Weijun Wang wrote:
>>> Please take a review at the CSR at
>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8213401
>>> As for implementation, I intend to report an error when -keyalg is not EC but -curvename is provided. If both -curvename and -keysize are provided, I intend to ignore -keysize no matter if they match or not.
>> Why not use a strict mode: fail if not match. It might be misleading if ignoring unmatched options.
>
> We can do that, but misleading to what? That we treat -curvename and -keysize the same important?
>
If the option "-keysize 256 -curvename sect163k1" work, I may think that
the key size if 256 bits. I want to create a 256 bits sect163k1 EC key,
and the tool allows this behavior, so I should get a 256 bits sect163k1
EC key. Sure, that's incorrect, but I don't know it is incorrect as the
tool ignore the key size. What's the problem of the command, I don't
know either unless I clearly understand sect163k1 is not 256 bits. The
next question to me, what's the key size actually is? 256 bits or 163
bits? which option are used? It adds more confusing to me.
We can ignore the -keysize option, but it is complicated to me to use
the tool.
>>
>>> Another question: in sun.security.util.CurveDB, we have
>>> // Return EC parameters for the specified field size. If there are known
>>> // NIST recommended parameters for the given length, they are returned.
>>> // Otherwise, if there are multiple matches for the given size, an
>>> // arbitrary one is returns.
>>> // If no parameters are known, the method returns null.
>>> // NOTE that this method returns both prime and binary curves.
>>> static NamedCurve lookup(int length) {
>>> return lengthMap.get(length);
>>> }
>>> FIPS 186-4 has 2 recommendations (K- and B-) for a binary curve field size. Do we have a choice?
>>> In fact, CurveDB.java seems to have a bug when adding the curves:
>>> add("sect163k1 [NIST K-163]", "1.3.132.0.1", BD,...
>>> add("sect163r2 [NIST B-163]", "1.3.132.0.15", BD,... // Another default?
>>> add("sect233k1 [NIST K-233]", "1.3.132.0.26", BD,...
>>> add("sect233r1 [NIST B-233]", "1.3.132.0.27", B,...
>>> and now 163 is sect163r2 and 233 is sect233k1.
>>> I assume we should always prefer the K- one?
>> TLS 1.3 uses secp256r1/secp384r1/secp521r1, no K- curves.
>
> There is no ambiguity for prime curves.
>
>>
>> Do you mean if no -curvename option, there is a need to choose a named curve?
>
> ECKeyPairGenerator::initialize(int) will choose one and keytool will use it. I just meant if we have a bug here and if we should be more public on what curve is chosen.
>
I see your concerns.
It might be a potential issue if we use a named curve if no curvename
specified. If the compatibility is not serious, I may suggest supported
named curves only, or use arbitrary curves but with a warning.
Xuelei
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