Can we also get some feedback on specialization, please?

Brian Goetz brian.goetz at oracle.com
Wed Jan 7 21:08:59 UTC 2015


It's way more raw than that!  More like, are ready to work around "oh, 
it seems they have not yet implemented XXX, I'll try something else".

On 1/7/2015 4:07 PM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> .. and are ready to use the compiler on the command line I assume...
>
> ;-)
>
> Sven
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Martijn Verburg <martijnverburg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ivan,
>>
>> To be honest, it's probably a bit early for your group to jump in for
>> valhalla-dev related sessions. FWIW - In London we're really only going to
>> involve the couple of people who are already on this list and understand
>> the fundamentals of the proposal.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martijn
>>
>> On 7 January 2015 at 20:21, Ivan St. Ivanov <ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> We, from the Bulgarian JUG are also planning to do a hackathon on this.
>>> Most probably it will be on January 29th (just before FOSDEM). We'll
>> update
>>> the VMs we already have and will also, as usual, write some blogs.
>>>
>>> As I am taking care of presenting this to my fellows here in Bulgaria and
>>> as I am poorly prepared in the language and type theory, would you please
>>> tell me where can I read more what is a compiler fiction, specialization
>> vs
>>> erasure vs reification and all the things that are discussed in the
>> various
>>> thread an in the state of specialization paper? Sorry for the stupid
>>> question, but I really want to get my folks here (including myself) up to
>>> speed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Martijn Verburg <
>> martijnverburg at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> On 6 January 2015 at 00:19, Richard Warburton <
>>>> richard.warburton at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>
>>>>> It should cover all the conversions outlined in the latest SotS.
>> There
>>>> are
>>>>>> a few known things that don't work quite right yet, things like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   - Nonstatic inner classes and local classes (we're close on this,
>>>>> though)
>>>>>>   - super-calls inside generic methods
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, it should be enough to write an ArrayList-like class that is
>>>> generic
>>>>>> in any-T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> To run it, just clone and build the valhalla repo (make images), and
>> use
>>>>>> that as your JDK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless I really need sleep (it is after midnight here) there are no
>>>> links
>>>>> from the project home page (
>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/valhalla/)
>>>> to
>>>>> the source repositories (http://hg.openjdk.java.net/valhalla). I
>>>> imagine
>>>>> this might cause confusion for casual users who don't know the mapping
>>>>> between project names and repo urls and it would be nice to add it. Or
>>>> even
>>>>> link to http://hg.openjdk.java.net/valhalla/valhalla - since that's
>>>> what
>>>>> they'll need to hg clone.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To this point I'd like to submit a 'patch' to the website page - is
>> there
>>>> a
>>>> source file for the web page somewhere that I can create a patch
>> against?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martijn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>    Richard Warburton
>>>>>
>>>>>    http://insightfullogic.com
>>>>>    @RichardWarburto <http://twitter.com/richardwarburto>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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