Can we also get some feedback on specialization, please?

Sven Reimers sven.reimers at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 21:13:34 UTC 2015


That sounds good... now I am really feeling at home...

;-)

-Sven

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Brian Goetz <brian.goetz at oracle.com> wrote:

> It's way more raw than that!  More like, are ready to work around "oh, it
> seems they have not yet implemented XXX, I'll try something else".
>
>
> On 1/7/2015 4:07 PM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>
>> .. and are ready to use the compiler on the command line I assume...
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Martijn Verburg <
>> martijnverburg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Ivan,
>>>
>>> To be honest, it's probably a bit early for your group to jump in for
>>> valhalla-dev related sessions. FWIW - In London we're really only going
>>> to
>>> involve the couple of people who are already on this list and understand
>>> the fundamentals of the proposal.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>> On 7 January 2015 at 20:21, Ivan St. Ivanov <ivan.st.ivanov at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> We, from the Bulgarian JUG are also planning to do a hackathon on this.
>>>> Most probably it will be on January 29th (just before FOSDEM). We'll
>>>>
>>> update
>>>
>>>> the VMs we already have and will also, as usual, write some blogs.
>>>>
>>>> As I am taking care of presenting this to my fellows here in Bulgaria
>>>> and
>>>> as I am poorly prepared in the language and type theory, would you
>>>> please
>>>> tell me where can I read more what is a compiler fiction, specialization
>>>>
>>> vs
>>>
>>>> erasure vs reification and all the things that are discussed in the
>>>>
>>> various
>>>
>>>> thread an in the state of specialization paper? Sorry for the stupid
>>>> question, but I really want to get my folks here (including myself) up
>>>> to
>>>> speed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ivan
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Martijn Verburg <
>>>>
>>> martijnverburg at gmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 January 2015 at 00:19, Richard Warburton <
>>>>> richard.warburton at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Brian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should cover all the conversions outlined in the latest SotS.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There
>>>
>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>>> a few known things that don't work quite right yet, things like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   - Nonstatic inner classes and local classes (we're close on this,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> though)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   - super-calls inside generic methods
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, it should be enough to write an ArrayList-like class that is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> generic
>>>>>
>>>>>> in any-T.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To run it, just clone and build the valhalla repo (make images), and
>>>>>>
>>>>> use
>>>
>>>> that as your JDK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless I really need sleep (it is after midnight here) there are no
>>>>>>
>>>>> links
>>>>>
>>>>>> from the project home page (
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://openjdk.java.net/projects/valhalla/)
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>> the source repositories (http://hg.openjdk.java.net/valhalla). I
>>>>>>
>>>>> imagine
>>>>>
>>>>>> this might cause confusion for casual users who don't know the mapping
>>>>>> between project names and repo urls and it would be nice to add it. Or
>>>>>>
>>>>> even
>>>>>
>>>>>> link to http://hg.openjdk.java.net/valhalla/valhalla - since that's
>>>>>>
>>>>> what
>>>>>
>>>>>> they'll need to hg clone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> To this point I'd like to submit a 'patch' to the website page - is
>>>>>
>>>> there
>>>
>>>> a
>>>>> source file for the web page somewhere that I can create a patch
>>>>>
>>>> against?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Martijn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Richard Warburton
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    http://insightfullogic.com
>>>>>>    @RichardWarburto <http://twitter.com/richardwarburto>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>


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