JEP 430: String Templates Mandatory TemplateProcessor

[tom L]

Hello,

I personally like this syntax of \{}, I also agree with the arguments that were said before, but there are a few topics that I I didn’t find in the previous mails, and while they be minor issues, I wanted to share them:

So recently, I talked with someone  who is dyslexic, and he said that he struggles to read such a sequence of characters. There are other characters, like $, §, #, @, that are way easier to read.
Also, a very minor one, \ is a bit annoying to type in a AZERTY keyboard, you have to do right-alt + 8.

Tom

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De : amber-dev <amber-dev-retn at openjdk.org> de la part de Remi Forax <forax at univ-mlv.fr>
Envoyé : lundi 15 mai 2023 16:03
À : Duncan MacGregor <duncan.macgregor at servicenow.com>
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Objet : Re: JEP 430: String Templates Mandatory TemplateProcessor



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From: "Duncan MacGregor" <duncan.macgregor at servicenow.com>
To: "amber-dev" <amber-dev at openjdk.org>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 1:03:37 PM
Subject: Re: JEP 430: String Templates Mandatory TemplateProcessor

I don’t understand the dislike for \{ either. Ruby uses #{, Swift uses \(, Python uses $, or { depending on whether you’re using f-strings, and so on. I use all of these at least semi-regularly and none of these is particularly ugly and all are abundantly clear if your IDE or editor supports correct syntax highlighting. I wouldn’t mind discussion of the syntax if it were more nuanced than “\{} 冷” (actual reddit comment), but I think until we see better arguments than, “Kotlin does it this way,” I’m not sure it’s valuable.

I've recently discussed with someone that choose to use ${} as a syntax for his template library.
The given reason is that '$' is seen as a pseudo character, so it works well in strings that uses the usual delimiters like :, ;, / or \ because it visually keeps the structure.

Now, Brian, the spec lead, said that the escape sequence is \{...} so it is.
Let's wait and see at least until 21 is released, at that points more people will use the feature, so the feedback will be more based on actual users.


Duncan.

Rémi


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Date: Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 16:19
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Note that there is a very strong backlash against the backslash (play on words intended) in the Java community.



Depends on who you hang out with. I know the Swift crowd seem content with \(. Not sure I see the point of making all languages the same.



Like any new language feature, you do get use to \{. Once IDEs integrate, string templates will become second nature.



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