Why is the windows runtime/sdk only provided as .exe

Wed May 9 15:58:17 PDT 2012

The code goes to
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.7.0.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/lib - I see
jfxrt.jar and the JavaFX DLLs in there. I haven't downloaded the Javadoc
package yet - I'll post again when I have done so.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Tom Schindl <tom.schindl at bestsolution.at>wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> I'm replying here because I think more people who are interested in zips
> (e.g. anyone using maven!) are listening here.
>
> So you are stating in the bug that no zips will be provided anymore
> which I think is a very disappointing situation - I will and have to
> accept it.
>
> If you read through the mailing list threads how Richard, Jasper, ...
> advised to deploy JavaFX application they always stated that one should
> bundle it with the application (probably with the JRE which is a no go
> when we talk about Webstart).
>
> Without providing zips you force me to have:
> * Win32
> * Mac OS X > 10.7.0
> * Linux (in future)
>
> to extract the fxjar + native libs to repackage in my custom app. I know
> I need them anyways to test, ... but forcing me to do it manually
> instead of simply providing zip downloads is ridiculous (and because of
> the licensing stuff I one person in the world would have done and wants
> to share it with the rest of us he/she is not allowed).
>
> For me as a tooling vendor your current decision gives me headaches
> because I want and need to support multiple different SDK-Install-Styles:
> * Dev Preview install (done through zips with the structure in there)
>
> * JDK-7-Installs
>  => Not sure how they look like and I'm unable to test because I only
>     have OS-X 10.6.8
>
> * JDK-6
>
> When we take a look into the future this JDK-Exe install kind of thing
> is a deadend road because you'll stop viewing the JDK/JRE as an all in
> one thing installable through one .exe because of jigsaw.
>
> Anyways I appreciate that you took a look but I'm not happy with it and
> hope I can find a way around it until then I can only point people to
> the JIRA entry when they want to use e(fx)clipse os OS-X.
>
> Can anyone here tell me how the OS-X JDK-7-Installation structure looks
> like? Where am I supposed to find:
> * the javafxrt.jar
> * the dlls
> * the fx-javadoc
>
> Tom
>
> Am 08.05.12 15:43, schrieb Tom Schindl:
> > Haveing the SDK-zips will solve all my current problems. Thanks for
> taking a Look.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> >
> > Am 08.05.2012 um 15:40 schrieb Kevin Rushforth <
> kevin.rushforth at oracle.com>:
> >
> >> Hi Tom,
> >>
> >> I just looked and you are right...only see the .exe files were released
> for 2.1. I will check into this and get back to you.
> >>
> >> The Mac issue will be trickier since we don't have any tested /
> supported standalone bundles of JavaFX 2.1 on Mac. As a released product
> JavaFX 2.1 for Mac is only available as part of JDK 7u4.
> >>
> >> -- Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom Schindl wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kevin - can you take a look at this once more? Since the 2.1 release
> the
> >>> zips for the SDKs are not available anymore!
> >>>
> >>> One can only download the one for 2.2 so it looks like the dev-release
> >>> site was adjusted but the GA site not.
> >>>
> >>> For those of use doing cross platform development and packaging JavaFX
> >>> with their apps getting geting the releases as zips is something really
> >>> important.
> >>>
> >>> Sidenote: Even worse because I'm still on OS-X 10.6.8 I can't even
> >>> install JavaFX because the JDK-7 release requires at least 10.7.0 (I
> >>> know you are not support JavaFX prior to JDK 7)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>> Am 04.01.12 17:37, schrieb Kevin Rushforth:
> >>>
> >>>> Oh, maybe we don't actually release the SDK on the public web page
> >>>> either (I knew we didn't release the runtime as a zip since we don't
> >>>> even generate it internally).
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom Schindl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kevin,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well maybe I'm blind but for win32 the there is NO zip available from
> >>>>> this page [1].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only thing available currently as a zip is the OS-X SDK version
> >>>>> which misses the win32 native libs not? I'll file a JIRA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javafx/downloads/devpreview-1429449.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 04.01.12 17:22, schrieb Kevin Rushforth:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Good question. The SDK is available as both an installer and a zip,
> and
> >>>>>> we could consider make the runtime available as a zip file as well,
> so
> >>>>>> please file a JIRA feature request for this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As for your other question, it is not currently possible to have
> 2.0.2
> >>>>>> and 2.1 instaled side-by-side.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- Kevin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom Schindl wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now that since 2.0.2 (and also 2.1) are redistributeable it might
> make
> >>>>>>> sense to provide them also as simple ZIP-Files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I find it odd that if I want to package JavaFX with my product
> that I
> >>>>>>> first have to install something only my system, navigate to the
> install
> >>>>>>> dir and copy over the stuff my own project directory.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is it BTW possible to have 2.1 and 2.0.2 installed next to each
> other? I
> >>>>>>> guess not which makes it hard to test with both versions on the
> same
> >>>>>>> system, which would be made much more easy if provided as simple
> >>>>>>> ZIP-Files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would you mind providing JavaFX 2.1 binaries (and maybe also >
> 2.0.2) as
> >>>>>>> a simple zip-File like you do it with 2.1 OS-X ones?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>
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